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Subject: Re: New list WCCC participants and Free Hardware

Author: James Swafford

Date: 06:07:14 05/29/04

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On May 29, 2004 at 07:27:02, Anthony Cozzie wrote:

>On May 29, 2004 at 02:52:20, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 28, 2004 at 21:43:30, James Swafford wrote:
>>
>>>On May 28, 2004 at 21:41:55, James Swafford wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 20:36:21, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 15:34:13, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 13:25:46, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 13:02:56, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 12:44:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 12:29:01, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 10:22:23, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 08:45:35, Mark Winands wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Author                   Program           Country
>>>>>>>>>>>>A. Ban and S. Bushinsky  Junior            Israel
>>>>>>>>>>>>U. Blass                 Movei             Israel
>>>>>>>>>>>>R. Coulom                The Crazy Bishop  France
>>>>>>>>>>>>O. David Tabibi          Falcon            Israel
>>>>>>>>>>>>V. Diepeveen             Diep              Netherlands
>>>>>>>>>>>>G.B.Garcia               FIBChess          Spain
>>>>>>>>>>>>R. Huber                 ParSOS            Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>R. Hyatt                 Crafty            USA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I need to start paying better attention I guess.  What the hell is this?!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Oh my..I just got goose bumps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I guess we know the answer to Vincent's challenge to either "put up or shut
>>>>>>>>>>up"...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If Robert got anything like a 4 way or 8 way manhine, I think we might hear
>>>>>>>>>>something like "Crafty has won the WCCC 2004!".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Peter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Crafty will run on at least 4 X 2.4ghz opterons.  Perhaps more.  I'll post
>>>>>>>>>details as they are worked out, but the 4-way is set now, as a worst-case...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Who is operating Crafty?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Should pull around 8M nps out of book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As a lower bound.  If you check the CCT6 logs, it reached 11-12M many times, and
>>>>>>>in some endings it broke 16M...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The funny thing is, no one ever takes Crafty seriously, but I bet I know at
>>>>>>>>least 2 book-makers who are probably making anti-Crafty books right now.  LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is gonna be neat...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It'll be competitive.  Winning is another matter.  Particularly since I have
>>>>>>>"zero percent chance of winning"...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am sorry to state this, but theorically you have chances and pratically you do
>>>>>>not.
>>>>>>Unless your hardware would be at least 10 times faster than Shredder, Junior and
>>>>>>Fritz. In this case you would have some chances even if not many.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know many will not like this, including yourself, but this is what I believe
>>>>>>and I am not afraid of saying what I think, like it or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am not willing to explain why, so people can criticize as much as they want,
>>>>>>but I will not change my mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>To win CCT or another tournament is something else as these are not considered
>>>>>>of the same importance by the commercial programs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sandro
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course Crafty has a chance to win.  Heck, DanChess might walk away with the
>>>>>title :)  Its only 13 games.  I look at worldchamps like this:
>>>>>
>>>>>Shredder     40%
>>>>>Fritz        30%
>>>>>Junior       20%
>>>>>All others:  <2%
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>So there is a >= 8% chance no one will win? :)
>>>
>>>Gah... > 8%.
>>
>>Not necessary.
>>
>>Maybe the meaning is that the last 10% are divided between 10 programs when
>>every one of them has 1%.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Yes.  Maybe I should have said "Any other" < 2%.
>

That works. :)  I don't agree, but it works...

--
James


>anthony



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