Author: Vasik Rajlich
Date: 04:02:11 06/01/04
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On May 31, 2004 at 07:22:55, Uri Blass wrote: >On May 31, 2004 at 07:15:31, Vasik Rajlich wrote: > >>On May 30, 2004 at 14:58:45, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>> >>>Kasparov-Deep Blue >>>Philadelphia (6) 1996 >>> >>> >>>The Opening has been a sucess for Kasparov. He has good central control, and >>>prospects of a gradual queenside advance. More importantly, there is no direct >>>plan for Black, so Deep Blue drifts for a few moves with disastrous >>>consequences. The bishop is already a little clumpsy on d7; I suspect a strong >>>human player would have sunk into thought, and devised a plan for deliverating >>>his game. >>> >>>[D]r2q1rk1/pp1bbppp/2n1pn2/3p4/2PP4/1P1B1N2/PB1N1PPP/2RQ1RK1 b - - 0 1 >>> >>>11...Nh5? >>>This over-ambitious idea met with strong disapproval from most strong human >>>commentators. However, Yasser Seirawan said "oddly enough, one well-known chess >>>computer scientist suggested that the move may well be OK, but it might need a >>>highly advandce program and computer in a few years' time to justify this move". >>>I suspect that this is a case in point of someone believing that a strong >>>chess-playing program is doing something profound, when in fact is just >>>crunching numbers, Few GMs back in 1996 felt that 11....Nh5 was anything other >>>than a bad move. >> >>This type of position is very difficult for any chess program. >> >>Sometimes, the engines will find some way to make a very strange move work, like >>11. .. Nh5. Even in this case, it's not very good if a person is using an engine >>to help him understand the position. >> >>Note that search depth is not important here. For another example of this, see >>Kasparov-Fritz, X3D, game 3, where Fritz was doing 18-19 ply in the middlegame. > >I disagree that search depth is not important. > >The fact that 18-19 plies of Fritz was not enough does not mean that search >depth is not important. > >Uri Rrrrrr. :) See how the scores for the top four or so moves here change with depth. (Or trust me: not much.) As is the case for all strategical positions. Vas
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