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Subject: Re: Where we've been and where we're going in the discussion on XML

Author: Andrew Wagner

Date: 17:41:41 06/10/04

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On June 10, 2004 at 20:40:15, Andrew Wagner wrote:

>On June 10, 2004 at 16:43:17, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>
>>On June 10, 2004 at 15:47:35, Andreas Guettinger wrote:
>>
>>>On June 10, 2004 at 15:29:50, Andrew Wagner wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 10, 2004 at 15:05:28, Jon Dart wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 10, 2004 at 14:59:38, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On June 10, 2004 at 14:45:04, Andrew Wagner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think we
>>>>>>>should stay away from anything that uses PNBRQK within the notation, and shoot
>>>>>>>for as much simplicity as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As Dan Honeycutt pointed out in the other thread, coordinate notation still
>>>>>>requires NBQR for promotions, ex. e7e8Q.
>>>>>
>>>>>Plus, my $0.02 is that we already have a good standard for moves (SAN). Why
>>>>>change to something else?
>>>>>
>>>>>--Jon
>>>>
>>>>For the reasons I mentioned, lower overhead (much easier to code for coordinate
>>>>notation), and because it avoids using PNBRQK, which helps in the international
>>>>community.
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't agree to coordinate notation. I would rather see something more readable
>>>for the "normal" chessplayer (and programmer). Most of us are used to PNBRQK by
>>>reading chess books. And I like to play the first few moves in my head to see
>>>what game/opening I'm dealing with even when managing raw data.
>>>
>>>I'm also not very happy with SAN. It's probably the most readable for humans,
>>>but as mentioned before not the easiest to implement. For the raw data I would
>>>prefer a "long" format, because it's always simpler to write a parser that
>>>leaves things awas than a parser that has to restore things.
>>>
>>>As a compromise, I find long algebraic the best, something like Nf3xg5+, d7-d8q
>>>
>>>my personal opinion
>>>Andy
>>
>>
>>To me this seems incredibly obvious, but our opinion appears to be the minority.
>>
>>anthony
>
>
>Look at Russ Reagan's post on this thread. Do you think you'd really be able to
>follow that game if the moves were in algebraic or long notation? Also, what
>about the international problem? You still haven't responded to that.

Referring to his response to Marek



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