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Subject: Re: ONE Position & A General Flaw in such Human Chess Position Tests

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 16:02:27 06/12/04

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On June 12, 2004 at 18:41:29, Mike S. wrote:

>On June 12, 2004 at 18:25:45, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>(...)
>
>>you must know that a team member of CSS does NOT discuss the topic but he must
>>fight critics wherever he can find them. Dont be too surprised. CSS tries to
>>define realities and you wont stop 'em.
>>
>>:))
>
>I wish I would find more serious, competent, constructive critics, to invent
>them to the CSS message board and have delightful conversation with them.
>Unfortunately I don't find many such persons.

Blabla. You already have them.

1. Hagra

2. Bob Hyatt several times Wchampion in computerchess

3. Ed Schröder several times Wchampion in computerchess

4. Yours truly as mediator with a whole academic study and a profession as
Psychologist. With diploma, not kitchen psychology. With a year long study of
statistics. Enough said? What qualifications do you have Mickey? Apart from your
being a team member of CSS?


>
>And your agenda is to ignore realities when they don't fit into your viewpoint.
>The WM-Test's conditions meet and always have met exactly the criteria Bob Hyatt
>has demanded, above. A solution is counted only, when the solving move is kept
>until the max. testing time per position. Why didn't you inform him about that,
>Mister perfectly fair??


I don't understand what you are hoping with such a nonsense, Mike!!

You invent things that simply did never happen. Do you think that Bob Hyatt & Ed
Schröder do condemn such position tests (with positions from human chess)
BECAUSE I have falsely informed them about the practice of WM-Test?????

Are you completley out of any controlled thinking? Where did I write that
nonsense you implied? I myself had done the test for my FRITZ 8 and could
confirm the ridiculous results of Hagra. And Mike, just between the two of us:
also with a hash where Hagra didn't find something spooky. I found it with a
perfectly normal hash. Read here my results
http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?370049!

In my case FRITZ 8 with P4 2600 did also start with 1-Re3 but then he changed to
1-Rad8 and then 1-Ne3!!! After much time he changed back to 1-Re3.

Hyatt's answer and comment: typical flaw and such position tests have no meaning
aside that you could say 2600 instead of 2200. But you can never say 2600 but
NOT 2550. Sont you understand, Mickey???? You are unable to conclude a
substantiated 50 point Elo difference between two machines!!!!!!!!

And you are actually fighting for the fairy tale that I, evil Rolf, has informed
innocent Bob abd Ed and Uri with fairy tales about the holy, magnificent
WM-Test.

NONSENSE, Mike!


>
>(I think I have to delay my withdrawal from CCC, to ensure that this discussion
>isn't completely going nuts...)


Let's keep this open, who will be called nuts in the end, Mike. Are you a bit
over-heated again and entering insulting mode? And that in speking for CSS???
Mike, please, think of your future there.



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