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Subject: Re: ONE Position out of 100 can't prove anything.

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 02:36:58 06/13/04

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On June 12, 2004 at 17:23:52, Mike S. wrote:

>I hope you didn't assume the WM-Test authors and the complete audience who uses
>it, are idiots who count a "pseudo solution" which is found i.e. after 12
>seconds, when from 42 secs. to 7 min. an engine switches to a wrong move
>etc.etc. ?? Of course not. A high percentage of CSS readers are experienced
>advanced computerchess users (at least). CSS itself has built, informed and
>developed that expert's audience (I guess the US has nothing comparable,
>unfortunately). - Also, advice has been given to set the "extra plies" parameter
>for automatic testsuite functions to 99, to ensure that the complete testing
>time is used, for each position. But in general, we have recommended to test
>manually and watch the engine's thinking process to get impressions so to speak.

>I'm a bit disappointed about your statement that "...such tests are basically
>flawed.  The test should," when indeed it *does* just that.

Mike, is this the claim you and CSS make, that the WM-test produces a correct
elo rating? Do a poll among the 10 top chess programmers, the ones who have the
knowledge and I would be very surprised if one will say it is.

My best,

Ed



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