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Subject: Re: Another interesting Anti-Null move position (from a real game)

Author: Frank E. Oldham

Date: 19:31:13 06/15/04

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On June 14, 2004 at 16:31:17, Jaime Benito de Valle Ruiz wrote:

>[d]8/8/1p4p1/p5kp/Pp1QP1Pq/1P6/6K1/8 w - - 0 62
>
>White moves and wins!
>Can your engine find the right answer and give the proper "crushing" score
>(around 9 pawns!) along with a proper PV? How long does it take?
>Mine doesn't find anything after a long long time (over an hour), but with
>null-move disabled, it takes only a few seconds to show the full PV.
>(Some engines find the right answer, but with a small score, an absurd PV, and
>they change their mind some plies later)
>
>In this position the black king is in a very delicate position: After a couple
>of moves, if the black queen moves, white checkmates inmediately, so both kings
>and queens must remain still while pawns play on their own.
>
>Any good suggestion to avoid this problem with null-move?
>
>Regards,
>
>  Jaime

no problem for crafty19.10 -- just a few secs andn the eval jumps 7 pts :-)

               10->   0.85  -0.91   1. gxh5 Qg4+ 2. Kf2 Qf4+ 3. Kg1 gxh5
                                    4. Qxb6 Qg3+ 5. Kh1 Qe5 6. Qe3+ Kg6
                                    7. Qb6+ Kf7 8. Qe3 (s=2)
               11     1.99  -1.01   1. gxh5 Qg4+ 2. Kf2 Qf4+ 3. Ke2 gxh5
                                    4. Qd5+ Kg6 5. Qc6+ Qf6 6. Qe8+ Kg5
                                    7. e5 Qg7 8. Kd3 h4
               11     3.21     ++   1. Qd2+!!
               11     3.44   6.06   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 b5 3. axb5 a4 4.
                                    b6 a3 5. Qf3+ Kg5 6. b7 Qe1 7. b8=Q
                                    Qd2+ 8. Qf2 Qxf2+ 9. Kxf2
               11->   3.44   6.06   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 b5 3. axb5 a4 4.
                                    b6 a3 5. Qf3+ Kg5 6. b7 Qe1 7. b8=Q
                                    Qd2+ 8. Qf2 Qxf2+ 9. Kxf2 (s=3)
               12     3.46     ++   1. Qd2+!!
               12     3.59   7.94   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 b5 3. axb5 a4 4.
                                    b6 axb3 5. b7 b2 6. b8=Q Qh1+ 7. Kxh1
                                    b1=Q+ 8. Qg1+ Qxg1+ 9. Kxg1 g5 10.
                                    Kh2 h4 11. Qxb4 (s=2)
               12->   3.68   7.94   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 b5 3. axb5 a4 4.
                                    b6 axb3 5. b7 b2 6. b8=Q Qh1+ 7. Kxh1
                                    b1=Q+ 8. Qg1+ Qxg1+ 9. Kxg1 g5 10.
                                    Kh2 h4 11. Qxb4
               13     3.71     ++   1. Qd2+!!
               13->   3.95   8.33   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 b5 3. axb5 a4 4.
                                    b6 axb3 5. b7 b2 6. b8=Q Qh1+ 7. Kxh1
                                    b1=Q+ 8. Qg1+ Qxg1+ 9. Kxg1 g5 10.
                                    Kh2 h4 11. Qxb4 (s=2)
               14     4.23   8.26   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 b5 3. axb5 a4 4.
                                    b6 axb3 5. b7 b2 6. b8=Q Qh1+ 7. Kxh1
                                    b1=Q+ 8. Qg1+ Qxg1+ 9. Kxg1 h4 10.
                                    Qxb4 h3 11. e5+ Kf5 12. Kh2
               14->   4.50   8.26   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 b5 3. axb5 a4 4.
                                    b6 axb3 5. b7 b2 6. b8=Q Qh1+ 7. Kxh1
                                    b1=Q+ 8. Qg1+ Qxg1+ 9. Kxg1 h4 10.
                                    Qxb4 h3 11. e5+ Kf5 12. Kh2 (s=2)
               15     4.97   8.62   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 b5 3. axb5 a4 4.
                                    b6 axb3 5. b7 b2 6. Qf3+ Kg5 7. b8=Q
                                    Qh1+ 8. Kxh1 b1=Q+ 9. Kh2 Qb2+ 10.
                                    Qg2+ Qxg2+ 11. Kxg2 b3 12. Kh3 Kf6
                                    13. Qxb3
               15->   5.34   8.62   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 b5 3. axb5 a4 4.
                                    b6 axb3 5. b7 b2 6. Qf3+ Kg5 7. b8=Q
                                    Qh1+ 8. Kxh1 b1=Q+ 9. Kh2 Qb2+ 10.
                                    Qg2+ Qxg2+ 11. Kxg2 b3 12. Kh3 Kf6
                                    13. Qxb3
               16     5.70     ++   1. Qd2+!!
               16     1:08  17.07   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 Qh3+ 3. Qxh3+ Kf4
                                    4. Qe6 Ke3 5. Qxg6 Kd3 6. e5+ Kc3 7.
                                    Qg3+ Kb2 8. e6 h4 9. Qe3 Ka3 10. Qxb6
                                    Kxb3 11. Qxa5 Kc4 12. e7 <HT>
               16->   1:08  17.07   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 Qh3+ 3. Qxh3+ Kf4
                                    4. Qe6 Ke3 5. Qxg6 Kd3 6. e5+ Kc3 7.
                                    Qg3+ Kb2 8. e6 h4 9. Qe3 Ka3 10. Qxb6
                                    Kxb3 11. Qxa5 Kc4 12. e7 <HT>
               17     1:11     ++   1. Qd2+!!
               17->   1:29  17.46   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 Qh3+ 3. Qxh3+ Kf4
                                    4. Qe6 Ke3 5. Qxg6 Kd3 6. e5+ Kc3 7.
                                    Qg3+ Kb2 8. e6 h4 9. Qe3 Ka3 10. Qxb6
                                    Kxb3 11. Qxa5 Kc4 12. e7 <HT>
               18     1:39     ++   1. Qd2+!!
               18->   3:52  17.85   1. Qd2+ Kxg4 2. Qe3 Qh3+ 3. Qxh3+ Kf4
                                    4. Qe6 Ke3 5. Qxg6 Kd3 6. e5+ Kc3 7.
                                    Qg3+ Kb2 8. e6 h4 9. Qe3 Ka3 10. Qxb6
                                    Kxb3 11. Qxa5 Kc4 12. e7 <HT>
               19     4:03     --   1. Qd2+
               19     8:16     ++   1. Qd2+!!
White(1): ?
              time=262:03  cpu=396%  mat=-1  n=47835764637  fh=99%  nps=3.04M
              ext-> chk=852526250 cap=5273571 pp=16468304 1rep=754220050
mate=302166
              predicted=0  nodes=47835764637  evals=564502499
              endgame tablebase-> probes=0  hits=0
              SMP->  split=11199  stop=920  data=12/32  cpu=1038:49  elap=262:03
Frank



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