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Subject: Re: 12th WCCC results!?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:53:25 06/17/04

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On June 17, 2004 at 09:38:48, Peter Berger wrote:

>On June 17, 2004 at 06:18:11, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 17, 2004 at 05:00:42, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>
>>>On June 17, 2004 at 01:19:57, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>I wouldn't be surprised, if:
>>>>
>>>>1) Junior  9/11
>>>>2) Fritz   8,5
>>>>3) Shredder 8
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>
>>>If Crafty shows up with the 8-way opteron:
>>>
>>>1. Crafty 8.5/11
>>>2. Junior 8/11
>>>3. Shredder 7.5/11
>>>4. Fritz 7.5/11
>>>
>>>I don't think _anything_ showing up there will be able to compete with the speed
>>>factor Robert will bring. He also has already shown on a 4 way he is more than
>>>capable of holding his own in the CCT's.. let alone on the 8-way.
>>
>>I think you overestimate Crafty.
>>
>>Shredder is still favourite even with 2:1 hardware advantage  for Crafty.
>>
>>Big hardware advantage can help but even with 8 processors that crafty is not
>>going to have Crafty is not going to have more than 2:1 hardware advantage.
>>
>>In the CCT shredder did not play and shredder is clearly better than Junior.
>>
>>I believe that in the CCT Crafty had more than 2:1 hardware advantage relative
>>to Junior and the important tournament for the commercial programs is WCC and
>>not CCT.
>>
>>After reading peter berger's post I expect Crafty only to get 5.5/11 or 6/11.
>>(better than most of the amatuers but weaker than Shreeder,Junior,Fritz).
>>
>>Uri
>
>Guessing time :) ?
>
>I think you underestimate Crafty and also its hardware advantage here.

You are right that I underestimated crafty's hardware.
4*850 was misleading and I did not understand that you talk about 4 opterons.

I correct my prediction

I predict that crafty will get 7/11.

 Junior,
>Shredder and Fritz are the clear tournament favourites IMHO - they are also the
>entries that can be expected to come up with hardware that is not *that* much
>slower than Crafty's if at all, although they are the ones who need it the
>least, but Crafty will most probably have a decent hardware advantage in all
>other games.
>
>4th or 5th place is most likely IMHO, where there is also some chance to
>outperform one of the top professionals, so 3rd would be a very nice and not
>*too* unrealistic positive extreme.
>
>6th or 7th is probably the negative extreme if things go badly.
>
>We'll find out soon ;). What is your tournament goal for Movei?
>Peter

I hope not to finish last place.
I still do not know the hardware of movei and what is the best hardware that I
can buy now for WCCC.

I am afraid that I woke up too late when I assumed that the time of buying new
hardware that IBM does not have in Israel is not more than 2 weeks.

Uri



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