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Subject: Re: Kasparov still speaks about human interference with Deep Blue!!

Author: Dan Kiski

Date: 08:20:10 12/23/98

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On December 23, 1998 at 10:14:58, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 23, 1998 at 00:20:59, Dan Kiski wrote:
>
>>On December 23, 1998 at 00:03:23, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On December 22, 1998 at 23:10:51, Larry Applebaum wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 22, 1998 at 18:06:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Mig mentioned on ICC the other day that J.Benjamin is writing a book about Deep
>>>>>>Blue. Mig said that the GM has all the logs, but is not willing to give them to
>>>>>>Kasparov.
>>>>>>I think that this book surely will answer a lot of questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Igor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hsu has told me that he has about finished a book on the subject as well,
>>>>>and will provide a lot of computer analysis of the games as well...
>>>
>>>Do these games really need computer Analysis, maybe a head shrink looking at
>>>some of those moves Kasparov made is more on target
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob
>>>>
>>>>Most interesting, do you have any inside info on when the book(s) will
>>>>be published?
>>>>
>>>>Happy Winter!
>>>
>>>No matter how many times I look over some of those Deep Blue games against
>>>Kasparov, I think to myself what is all the fuss about. Kasparov played some
>>>very stupid moves. Maybe having in the back of his mind that maybe some human
>>>intervention was involved made him want to say stuff it.
>>>
>>>They should just release what he asks for, what is the big deal, unless they
>>>have something to hide. Its not as though they are protecting Deep Blue secrets,
>>>it is now just a pile of rubbish now.
>>>
>>>They did a hit and run, and to me if your really look at those games played
>>>especially the ones kasparov lost. Is it really worth the effort.
>>>
>>>Take on the top three players in the world and beat them in a series of games,
>>>then I will gather more interest. Plus we are talking about a machine that has
>>>been pulled apart. So it not like it is anything special anymore.
>>>
>>>I just want to see if his accusations are correct.
>>
>>This could be a question in the next poll.....
>>Was human involvement or not, or did Deep Blue come up with the moves on it's
>>own.
>
>
>No... It is both a stupid *and* insulting question.  A "poll" can't answer this.
>And it shouldn't try.  Based on the main moves questioned by Kasparov (ie axb5
>vs Qb6 and Be4 vs Qb6) it was quite obvious that DB came up with those moves
>totally by itself.  Making it into a poll question is simply insulting to the
>DB team...

No IMHO, it is a good poll question due to from what I have seen posted here
before there are a number who feel that DB was assisted in finding some moves,
although this is not my own opinion. I am still curious to find out how many
people actually believe it. The pole isn't intended to answer the question but
to simply find out how many people believe it.





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