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Subject: Re: Fantastic attack by Junior

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 14:48:47 07/06/04

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On July 06, 2004 at 17:32:23, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On July 06, 2004 at 17:22:19, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On July 06, 2004 at 17:10:06, Andrew Dados wrote:
>>
>>>On July 06, 2004 at 16:39:54, Amir Ban wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 16:24:59, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 06, 2004 at 15:58:24, Ingo Althofer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I just found time to replay the games from round 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The 27-move win by Junior (with sacrifice of
>>>>>>pawns and a full knight) is simply marvellous.
>>>>>>And it was not a win by opening-book preparation!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Congratulations to Amir and Shay!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ingo Althofer.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, great game by Junior. However, all the line played by Diep was not good and
>>>>>Junior had 4 open columns to attack. The 3 pawns of Diep was not a real
>>>>>advantage. If you put other engines from move 13 to 18, you will realize that
>>>>>they dont see that the white position is not good.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, I dont agree that the opening preparation did not influenced the result. It
>>>>>helped a lot. Of course, the final Junior was clean and direct.
>>>>>
>>>>>By the way, just one game. We will see tomorrow....
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards, Arturo Ochoa M.
>>>>
>>>>It was just a QGA with slight white advantage.
>>>>
>>>>Is there anybody else who plays either 18... Rae8 or 20... Bxc5 ?
>>>>
>>>>Amir
>>>
>>>While watching the game at playchess I noticed evaluations and plycounts added
>>>in movelist for black (Junior). Plycounts suggested there were real Junior
>>>numbers from that game - correct me if I am wrong here.
>>>
>>
>>The moves were relayed by Junior, so you are not wrong.
>>
>>
>>>Anyhow if those numbers are from real game then Junior had thought position was
>>>better for white till move 22 and thought 0.00 at move 23... Re5 (4 moves prior
>>>to white resigning!)
>>>
>>
>>It had given three pawns at that point, so a 0 score is as significant as +3
>>with level material.
>
>I can't understand ?!?!  Do you say that if Junior is 2 Pawns behind and it has
>an evaluation of 0.00 then it thinks it has the advantage by +2.00  ?
>I thought the evaluations were absolute and a 0.00 is a draw no matter what is
>the material difference....

He happy that his kingsafety worked.

anthony

>>
>>
>>>IMO it was quite a lucky line for black, resulting in beautiful minature here.
>>>
>>
>>I don't see where luck comes in here.
>
> No luck at all! I can't understand what luck has to do with Chess. Only the
>opening book choice is a factor of luck but in this game there was no advantage
>for Junior after the opening.
> It was just the well known style of Junior. Please keep working this way. The
>style of Junior is amazing. Don't change it..........
>
>>
>>Amir



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