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Subject: Re: Organization of WCCC

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 14:24:46 07/07/04

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On July 07, 2004 at 17:04:11, Omid David Tabibi wrote:

>On July 07, 2004 at 16:25:19, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>On July 07, 2004 at 16:19:15, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>
>>>On July 07, 2004 at 16:00:56, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 07, 2004 at 15:53:50, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>1. Shredder 5.5 (congratulations to Stefan!)
>>>>>2. Crafty 4.5
>>>>>3. Falcon and Junior 4.0
>>>>>
>>>>>The 1st and 2nd places are quad Opterons!
>>>>>
>>>>>I will upload the complete standings tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>>========
>>>>>
>>>>>I am quite happy with Falcon's performance, especially since I used a
random >>>>>book instead of the main book. Falcon's results were:
>>>>>
>>>>>0.5 vs ParSOS
>>>>>0.5 vs Diep
>>>>>1.0 vs Jonny
>>>>>1.0 vs The Crazy Bishop (Falcon playing French against the French
program!) >>>>>1.0 vs Junior
>>>>>0.0 vs Crafty
>>>>>0.0 vs Shredder
>>>>>
>>>>>In both the game against Crafty and the game against Shredder, Falcon had
a >>nice >>>advantage, but was outsearched (those damn quad Opterons...). Well,
in >>the main >>>tournament Falcon is doing fine so far (2nd place together
with >>Shredder). >>>Tomorrow the games in the first two tables will be:
>>>>>
>>>>>Shredder - Junior
>>>>>Deep Sjeng - Falcon
>>>>>
>>>>>The complete pairing will be uploaded tomorrow morning (the blitz
tournament >>>>>ended at about 22:00, so I had no time to update the
website...) >>>>>
>>>>>Tomorrow the games will start at 9:00.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>thanks Omid for your work and updates. It's not your fault I think that
there >>is >>a delay since you have enough work with participation, Updates and
>>lectures >
>>>I'm doing my best to update the website as soon as I can. It is very easy to
>>>start complaining that "If the people responsible for the P/R stuff worked
for >>>me, they would be jobless". If that person who doesn't know what the
hell he >>is >talking about, and has already complained more than his share,
can do a >>better >job, he is welcome to organize a WCCC (I warn him though, he
should set >>aside >about one year of his life for organizing the event...).
>>>
>>>>and I don't think you get paid for your updates on the website
>>>
>>>No. In fact just today I paid 65 Euros for participation of Falcon and
journal >>>subscription :)
>>>
>>>
>>>>but I must admit the
>>>>ICGA should have appointed someone who is not involved in the tournamend to
>>>>maintain the website on a regular basis.
>>>>
>>>>regards Joachim
>>>>
>>>>P.S.: Am I right, that only 8 engines participated in the blitz tournament?
>>>
>>>Yes. The participants were:
>>>
>>>Shredder, Crafty, Falcon, Junior, Diep, ParSOS, Jonny, The Crazy Bishop.
>>
>>
>>The website update should have been delegated to a non-participant.  That is
a >>valid criticism, not of you, but of organization.
>
>First of all, I am part of the Bar-Ilan organizing team (together with Prof.
>Netanyahu). Secondly, no, it is not a valid criticism.
>
>I believe all the participants who are present here will agree that this was
one >of the best organized WCCC events in the past few years. The amateur
>participants are provided with $500 grant, low fares in a nice 4-star hotel,
>reasonably fast free loan machines, their transportation to and from the
>university is organized (together with a city tour thanks to the City of
>Ramat-Gan, and an excursion to Jerusalem this Saturday), they all have fast
>internet connections and programs running remote have all worked fine, and as
>far as the playing hall is concerned, it is equipped with four screens where
the >games are displayed live, and people (both in the hall and on the
internet) >enjoy GM Boris Alterman's great work providing live commentaries
(audio and >video broadcast on the internet). And so far, almost all the games
have been >broadcast live on PlayChess server.



PlayChess is not accessible to all.   ICC/FICS is accessible to all.  So what
happened?

That leaves us with your website as the only source of official information.


Not good.




>And as far as media coverage is concerned,
>there have already been three live interviews on national channels about the
>event (with Prof. Netanyahu, Shay Bushinsky, and me), and we are still working
>on more extensive media coverage by organizing a media evening.
>
>Now, about internet audience: again, people interested in *live* games, should
>watch the live broadcast on PlayChess (which has functioned very well).



Try that on a Linux machine sometime.



>But
>don't expect the website to contain "live" results. The website is usually
>updated several hours after each round, which is very reasonable. Today's
round >4 ended only a few hours ago, and I'm now updating the website.
>
>So, again, of course everything can be improved, but as far as the
organization >of the tournament is concerned, I think that it has been done
very well, and >your criticism is far from being valid.
>
>
>>
>>Furthermore, there is no official information about hardware.  What is DIEP
>>running on?
>
>Vincent will gladly reply to the question.



No.  He won't.  Why don't you tell us?  Do YOU even know?


Look, man.  I'm sure it is all perfectly swell for you at the site.  Good for
you.  Meanwhile, out here in spectator land, we are getting more information
from Mars than from Ramat Gan.

Can you understand that?


Regards,






>
>> What is Junior running on?  Who knows?
>
>Nobody except the Junior team. They prefer not to comment about the exact
>specifications.
>
>
>>
>>Plus, non-windows users are shut out completely.  A linux user would still
not >>know how round 4 finished, except through the grape vine.



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