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Subject: Re: Organization of WCCC

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 16:16:52 07/07/04

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On July 07, 2004 at 17:56:30, Amir Ban wrote:

>On July 07, 2004 at 17:04:11, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>
>>On July 07, 2004 at 16:25:19, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>
>>>On July 07, 2004 at 16:19:15, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 07, 2004 at 16:00:56, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 07, 2004 at 15:53:50, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>1. Shredder 5.5 (congratulations to Stefan!)
>>>>>>2. Crafty 4.5
>>>>>>3. Falcon and Junior 4.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The 1st and 2nd places are quad Opterons!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I will upload the complete standings tomorrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>========
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am quite happy with Falcon's performance, especially since I used a random
>>>>>>book instead of the main book. Falcon's results were:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>0.5 vs ParSOS
>>>>>>0.5 vs Diep
>>>>>>1.0 vs Jonny
>>>>>>1.0 vs The Crazy Bishop (Falcon playing French against the French program!)
>>>>>>1.0 vs Junior
>>>>>>0.0 vs Crafty
>>>>>>0.0 vs Shredder
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In both the game against Crafty and the game against Shredder, Falcon had a
>>>nice >>>advantage, but was outsearched (those damn quad Opterons...). Well, in
>>>the main >>>tournament Falcon is doing fine so far (2nd place together with
>>>Shredder). >>>Tomorrow the games in the first two tables will be:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shredder - Junior
>>>>>>Deep Sjeng - Falcon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The complete pairing will be uploaded tomorrow morning (the blitz tournament
>>>>>>ended at about 22:00, so I had no time to update the website...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tomorrow the games will start at 9:00.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks Omid for your work and updates. It's not your fault I think that there
>>>is >>a delay since you have enough work with participation, Updates and
>>>lectures >
>>>>I'm doing my best to update the website as soon as I can. It is very easy to
>>>>start complaining that "If the people responsible for the P/R stuff worked for
>>>>me, they would be jobless". If that person who doesn't know what the hell he
>>>is >talking about, and has already complained more than his share, can do a
>>>better >job, he is welcome to organize a WCCC (I warn him though, he should set
>>>aside >about one year of his life for organizing the event...).
>>>>
>>>>>and I don't think you get paid for your updates on the website
>>>>
>>>>No. In fact just today I paid 65 Euros for participation of Falcon and journal
>>>>subscription :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>but I must admit the
>>>>>ICGA should have appointed someone who is not involved in the tournamend to
>>>>>maintain the website on a regular basis.
>>>>>
>>>>>regards Joachim
>>>>>
>>>>>P.S.: Am I right, that only 8 engines participated in the blitz tournament?
>>>>
>>>>Yes. The participants were:
>>>>
>>>>Shredder, Crafty, Falcon, Junior, Diep, ParSOS, Jonny, The Crazy Bishop.
>>>
>>>
>>>The website update should have been delegated to a non-participant.  That is a
>>>valid criticism, not of you, but of organization.
>>
>>First of all, I am part of the Bar-Ilan organizing team (together with Prof.
>>Netanyahu). Secondly, no, it is not a valid criticism.
>>
>>I believe all the participants who are present here will agree that this was one
>>of the best organized WCCC events in the past few years. The amateur
>>participants are provided with $500 grant, low fares in a nice 4-star hotel,
>>reasonably fast free loan machines, their transportation to and from the
>>university is organized (together with a city tour thanks to the City of
>>Ramat-Gan, and an excursion to Jerusalem this Saturday), they all have fast
>>internet connections and programs running remote have all worked fine, and as
>>far as the playing hall is concerned, it is equipped with four screens where the
>>games are displayed live, and people (both in the hall and on the internet)
>>enjoy GM Boris Alterman's great work providing live commentaries (audio and
>>video broadcast on the internet). And so far, almost all the games have been
>>broadcast live on PlayChess server. And as far as media coverage is concerned,
>>there have already been three live interviews on national channels about the
>>event (with Prof. Netanyahu, Shay Bushinsky, and me), and we are still working
>>on more extensive media coverage by organizing a media evening.
>>
>>Now, about internet audience: again, people interested in *live* games, should
>>watch the live broadcast on PlayChess (which has functioned very well). But
>>don't expect the website to contain "live" results. The website is usually
>>updated several hours after each round, which is very reasonable. Today's round
>>4 ended only a few hours ago, and I'm now updating the website.
>>
>>So, again, of course everything can be improved, but as far as the organization
>>of the tournament is concerned, I think that it has been done very well, and
>>your criticism is far from being valid.
>>
>
>I can also commend Tom, the system administration, who's doing a fine job
>solving the communication problems for the remote computers real quick, and BTW
>saving Jaap v.d. Herik some taking difficult decisions about that.
>
>About reporting moves to the world: In both Graz and Ramat-Gan moves were
>automatically relayed to the playchess.com server. The difference is that in
>Graz ICC bootlegged that transmission to its site, while in this tournament ICC
>is refraining from doing this.
>
>Amir


It is the age of the Internet.  Everyone with internet access should be able to
watch.

But, I guess if the on-site people are happy, and the ICGA officers get paid,
then it's good enough for them.  That's the attitude we are seeing.

Meanwhile, for a lot of us on the Internet, it might as well be 1974.

Have a nice time.



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