Author: Arturo Ochoa
Date: 00:15:16 07/08/04
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On July 07, 2004 at 23:34:20, Albert Silver wrote: >On July 07, 2004 at 21:20:55, Anthony Cozzie wrote: > >>On July 07, 2004 at 19:33:52, Albert Silver wrote: >> >>>On July 07, 2004 at 14:24:14, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >>> >>>>On July 07, 2004 at 12:09:14, Albert Silver wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 07, 2004 at 11:30:24, Fernando Villegas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>It has been a surprise to analyze Junior-Diep game, specially when you have read >>>>>>here so many posts by Diepeveen talking of the huge knowledge capabilities of >>>>>>his program. Looking at the position before white rook taking "a" pawn it is not >>>>>>neccesary to be more than 2000 elo player to see the threats lurking in the >>>>>>position, the great activity, open or scarcely hidden, of black pieces, all of >>>>>>them aiming at the white king or near it. >>>>>>Oh well, said Diep, but a pawn is a pawn.... >>>>>>If there is a program that can talk of knowledge is or has been Junior. At least >>>>>>he really knows to attack. >>>>>>Anyway, I got fun. As a lover of dedicated units, I chose to take Diep endeavour >>>>>>in this game as a kind of homage to those old machines. >>>>>>Very poignant indeed. >>>>>>fernando >>>>> >>>>>You've heard of those nonsense posts on "what if a program like Junior were to >>>>>run on the Deep Blue hardware?". Well, this is a similar experiment with the >>>>>Chess Challenger software running on hardware that is thousands if not millions >>>>>of times faster. >>>>> >>>>>A lot of people don't realize the meaning of the DIEP acronym, mistakenly >>>>>thinking it has something to do with the author's name: Diminished Intellect >>>>>Experimental Program. >>>>> >>>> >>>>That is pretty harsh criticism from someone who's engine competes in Class D at >>>>WBEC ;) >>>> >>>>anthony >>> >>>You guys really need to learn to lighten up. It's not such harsh criticism as I >>>have yet to understand how anyone could possibly take any of it seriously. I'd >>>suggest some of the more vociferous posters take a couple of steps back to >>>regain some perspective. >>> >>> Albert >> >>This is not criticism, it is simply an insult. To be fair, Vincent does a great >>deal of this himself (especially about Crafty, which seems to be trashing his >>predictions so far) but two wrongs don't make a right. >> >>anthony > >Actually, it is neither criticism, nor an insult. The comparison to Chess >Challenger, which in its early incarnations could not even play the full legal >game, is a joke. I merely took Fernando's comparison with machines of the 80s >and took it a step further. I'd have thought the comparison was so amazingly >exaggerated, not to mention the idea of speeding it up by a million-fold, that >it would have been clear it wasn't a serious comment. I'm not sorry for the >comment, it was and is a silly joke. You don't need to find it cute, but to >presume it was a serious attempt to insult him is really the epitome of >ridicule. If some people want to try to make this into some form of holy war, be >my guest, but they will be yelling alone. To see so many go up in flames doesn't >make me wish to revise my comment, it does make me wonder about the posters >though. I'd suggest lots of rest to them, and above all, no computers. > >As to Arturo, his comments were so absurd I didn't even know what to do except >conclude the poor fellow is mad. There is a line after all, when passion crosses >the boundary to fanatacism. There are a few people whose posts I never bother >reading, even if they respond to me, usually in CTF though, and now he's on the >list. I learned long ago, especially in CTF, that arguing with madmen is an >exercise in madness itself, so.... > > Albert Every mental insane ,that escapes from the asylum like you, always sounds "very logic". Your pathology of inferiority is understandable. You have not created a strong engine so you use any message like the Fernando to throw out a lot of garbage. While I dont see a problem in the Fernando´s message, your message is done with an obvious intention. Your poor brain doesnt understand what means to insult somebody. Continue.... that is a minority of this Forum whose arrogance and egotistic way is pretty well known. But we have found other creature og this minority: Albert Silver. Good work, selenite!
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