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Subject: Re: How about open weaponry boxing championship?

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 13:35:01 07/14/04

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On July 14, 2004 at 16:13:20, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On July 14, 2004 at 12:56:10, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>
>>>I can easily reproduce all critical moves of the Falcon-Crafty game on my
>>>notebook for black. I already asked you in another message if more time would
>>>have made any difference for Falcon for two of its critical mistakes - you
>>>didn't answer yet.
>
>>Just count the number of times Crafty changed the PV after 1/4 of its thinking
>>time (including pondering), and see how many of them were critical, and
>>prevented a loss.
>>
>>You will find many of them. Here is one I remember clearly: After Falcon's
>>...Ra5 in the endgame, Crafty wanted to repeat the position at first (score:
>>0.00). It thought for a long time, and then changed the PV to other move, which
>>was winning. But you will find many other moves in the earlier stage of the
>>game, which would have resulted in a loss were they played (after thinking for
>>1/4 of the time).
>
>Your proposal was to give everyone quad Opterons, so Crafty would play the same
>moves. So talk about giving Falcon 4x the time, not giving Crafty 1/4th the
>time.
>
>You still didn't answer his question. If Falcon had used 4x the time, would it
>have avoided the mistakes and avoided losing the game?

I haven't analyzed the whole game in detail (giving 4x thinking time), so I
can't be certain that there was a clear winning move. But having 2x the time
Falcon would have avoided that Ra5 blunder in the endgame and would at least
draw the game.


>
>What about the game vs. Junior? Falcon had a good position and could have at
>least got a draw. Would 4x the hardware have avoided, say, f5 and played Nf4
>instead?

Just as Falcon played ...f5, there was a massive score drop, meaning that had it
seen one iteration deeper it would have avoided that move. For one iteration
deeper about 2.5-3x speedup is needed, so 4x speedup would have surely avoided
the move.

The same happened against Diep, with a massive score drop coming just as a move
was played. The only loss of Falcon which had nothing to do with hardware was
against Deep Sjeng. Falcon simply played a bad variation with horrible
statistics for black, and its desperate exchange sacrifice was no good.





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