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Subject: Re: How about open weaponry boxing championship?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:24:37 07/15/04

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On July 15, 2004 at 12:16:53, Eugene Nalimov wrote:

>On July 15, 2004 at 05:11:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On July 14, 2004 at 22:05:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On July 14, 2004 at 14:40:17, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 14, 2004 at 14:17:33, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 14, 2004 at 13:00:15, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The goal is the best computer chess.  You can't have that unless it's open
>>>>>>>hardware.  It has always been open hardware,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You forget WMCCC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No I don't.  This is not WMCCC.  It's WCCC.  The best chess will be played on
>>>>>big hardware.  That's why it's open hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you want to argue for inferior chess, then go organize thw World Inferior
>>>>>Computer Chess Championship.
>>>>>
>>>>>Meanwhile, the rest of us want to see the best computer chess the world has to
>>>>>offer.  We want to see the envelope pushed as far as it can go.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The best computer chess in the world is supposed to be seen at the World
>>>>>Championship.  You can't do that by limiting hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know how many different ways it needs to be said.  Your idea is fine
>>>>>for some other event that is not the WCCC.
>>>>
>>>>I did not suggest to abolish the open hardware format to begin with. What I
>>>>suggest is to hold two events, WCCC for open hardware, and WMCCC for uniform
>>>>hardware. Just the way it used to be. In WCCC you will find the best
>>>>engine+hardware combination, and in WMCCC you will find the strongest chess
>>>>program.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Absolutely and totally bogus statement.
>>>
>>>What processor will you pick?  I want 64 bits.  Others want 32 bits.
>>
>>
>>The best solution is to give the participants the possibility to choose the
>>hardware when the participants do not need to care to bring the hardware that
>>they choose and the organizers do it for them.
>>
>>If we talk about WMCCC then a better alternative than uniform hardware is that
>>programmers will be able to ask the organizers to give them every machine that
>>they ask(behind some price) with only one codition that the machine does not
>>have more than one cpu.
>
>Programmer A spent several months to implement parallel search in his program.
>
>Programmer B spent those months to rewrite his uni-proc search into assembly
>language.
>
>You suggested rule favors programmer B. Why?

A can participates in WCCC when B participates in WMCCC

I did not say not to have WCCC

Uri



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