Author: Eugene Nalimov
Date: 16:51:34 07/15/04
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On July 15, 2004 at 18:03:08, Peter Berger wrote: >On July 15, 2004 at 15:59:50, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On July 15, 2004 at 15:42:33, Eugene Nalimov wrote: >> >>>On July 15, 2004 at 15:36:47, Ed Schröder wrote: >>> >>>>On July 15, 2004 at 13:21:48, Martin Slowik wrote: >>>> >>>>>Whoops, >>>>> >>>>>lucky me mentioned the name Ed Schroeder only together with the adjective >>>>>'talented'... ;-) Didn't know that you're still around, still being interested >>>>>in computer chess. >>>> >>>>Being retired from competion and commerce doesn't mean my interest has gone >>>>away. >>>> >>>> >>>>>Since I have you here now, if you allow I'd have a question that is nagging me >>>>>(and some other folks who are still playing dedicated chess computers). >>>>>Hopefully you remember the times of the Risc I and II modules for the Mephistos >>>>>roughly... Is there a big difference between the two, i.e. do you remember what >>>>>you changed or to what exent in the later program version? There are people >>>>>thinking that the first version is even stronger than the second, do you believe >>>>>this is possible? >>>> >>>>The Risc-II is 40-50 elo points stronger. I still know it because the difference >>>>was just one instruction. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>The USCF has about 50,000-60,000 paying members which is quite low if you >>>>>>compare that to pinhead Holland which has about 30,000. >>>>> >>>>>Well, I intentionally didn't mention Fischer and the popularity of chess in the >>>>>US, since I think that this is alomst an exception to the 'Becker-effect'. Okay, >>>>>in the first years Bobby did attract many people but I think the effect would >>>>>have been bigger or have lasted longer in almost any other country. Perhaps this >>>>>is due to the cultural differences between Europe and America: if you can't earn >>>>>a lot of money with a sport/game it gets dropped very quickly by the people >>>>>(even though Fischer changed the salaries of the pros in a very significant way >>>>>- alas it's not comparable to the salaries of basketball players). ;-) >>>>> >>>>>>>in Holland the answer must be related to Euwe... >>>>>> >>>>>>Obviously. But chess was already quite popular here. >>>>> >>>>>Yes, and I think even the extent nowadays is astonishing. >>>> >>>>>But what I don't get is the lack of russian chess engine programmers. They have >>>>>both, excellent chess players and very good programmers - but so far no top >>>>>engine if I'm not mistaken. >>>> >>>>I agree, the lack off Russian chess programmers is unexplainable. >> >>>Does several percent of code in majority of strong chess engines count as at >>>least one engine? :-) >> >>Really Eugene, I did not know you are of Russian descent. >> >>But the answer to your question is still "Njet" :-) >> >>My best, >> >>Ed > >Didn't Eugene also write Mirage? That was a very decent free engine at its time. >How about SmarThink? Thought it was Russian too. > >Peter No, not Mirage. Siberian Chess. It was more than 10 years ago, when I had no wife or kids, and had less demanding job... You can download (some) version from http://www.ctv.es/USERS/cavalle/escacs/softdos.html#siberian. I am not even sure I kept the sources when I moved to the USA... Thanks, Eugene
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