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Subject: Re: How is this possible

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 06:22:21 08/12/04

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On August 12, 2004 at 08:59:19, Volker Böhm wrote:

>On August 12, 2004 at 03:18:05, krisnatoon wrote:
>
>>On August 12, 2004 at 03:08:49, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>If it is Pentium M = Centrino, then everything is OK...
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>Yes, this is a Centrino.
>>
>>Why is then everything OK?
>
>Everybody starts to by a PC according "clock" speed. A 1GHz PC is half as fast
>as a 2GZ PC. Intel´s idea was to develop a processor that supports maximal clock
>speed no matter how fast it would be. The Pentium IV was born. A Pentium IV with
>about 1,8 GHz is about as fast as a Pentium III with 1,3 GHz.
>
>Because most PC user can not distinguish betwenn different "GHz" AMD had to
>develop a marketing-trick and invented "quanti-speed" values (they used those
>before). AMD argues that a CPU with x real GHZ has a quanti-speed of x*Factor
>(ca. 1,3) GHz. Thus AMD has a GHz value that comes close to the Intel P4 GHz
>value for CPU with the same speed.
>
>Intel marketing now startet a counter attack to AMD´s quanti-speed arguing that
>only the PV has "real" GHz and not a somehow calculated value.
>
>One drawback of high clock speeds is the power consumtion. No matter what tricks
>Intel is trying the "clock-speed maximized" achitecture of a PVI has much less
>computer-speed/power-consumtion ratio compared to the Pentium III. In desktop
>most consumer are ignoring high electicity costs and large and loud fan´s they
>only have because Intel wanted a high clock rate as selling argument. (Did you
>notice that I hate Intel for that? They are currently inventing a new type of
>dektop case that is incompatible to older cases just to support even higher
>power consumtion and better air-flow)
>
>On notbooks high power consumtion reduces time the notebook can work unplugged.
>The additional heat needs very fast (because small) and loud fan´s. The notebook
>gets very hot reducing its life-time and the ability to put it on your knees
>without protection from massiv heat.
>
>Now Intel had a problem. They have the better as PIV Processor: The PIII
>Processor that can easily compare to PIV and Athlon in speed with reduced heat
>that could be sold in notebooks.
>They solved it with the "Centrino" brand. "Centrino" is a brand describing a
>concept where nearly every notebook component is from intel. It is based on the
>Pentium M CPU (it is a mobile improved Pentium III). Intel does no longer sell
>notebooks by clock speed but by the total mobility concept (w-lan, long duration
>unplugged, ...). They could´nt use a kind of "quanti-speed" value because their
>own marketing just told that AMD does this and it´s bad.
>
>I dream of a Pentium M desktop!
>
>One thing I have to admit. There are some applications where PIV processors
>profits from it´s high clock speed.
>
>Greetings Volker

we need to write a faq for this board:  Pipelines, caches and branch prediction:
why pentium 4 sucks for computer chess.

anthony



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