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Subject: Re: [OT] Development Release: Mandrakelinux 10.1 beta 1 [OT]

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 10:48:34 08/12/04

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On August 11, 2004 at 03:02:08, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On August 10, 2004 at 23:53:09, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>It turned out I could do everything -or almost- in Linux. When there was
>>something I could not do with Linux, I managed to find alternatives (booting an
>>outdated version of Windows in another partition, or running this outdated
>>version of Windows inside Linux with an emulator like Win4lin or VMware).
>
>So in other words you can't live without windows entirely :)
>Actually, I'm not joking, I had much the same problem.
>
>I know it's possible to do practicly everything with linux, you just have to
>recompile the kernel, install patch number 307im3992slle, run ./configure, edit
>the makefile to suit your environment, login as root and copy the kernel image,
>reconfigure lilo and voila, it works without you "having to lift a finger".



No I'm sorry you are wrong.

I *NEVER* recompile anything. I *NEVER* type "make install" or such things.

I just look for rpm packages that are compiled for my distro, and I install
them. That's all.

I indeed had to reinstall a different version of the kernel in order to run
Win4lin. But it was really easy. I just downloaded a rpm package and installed
it.

I would not say that everything is always easy in Linux, but it would be unfair
to say that you spend all of your time downloading sources and recompiling bits
of your system all day long. It's not true anymore.

You download packages (these can be new applications or updates) and you install
them. There are even applications that allow you to explore the content of
Internet "repositories" and to install these packages in just one click.




>Ehh, that's not for me thank you, I'm way past that.
>I'm tired of all that rocket science multiOS messing about, I want to spend a
>minimal amount of effort on "playing" with the OS, I want my play with my
>applications instead.
>
>In windows it's double click the binary and follow the installation wizard
>(mostly just click ok-button a few times).
>
>Linux is great in many ways, but there is only so much you can do with 'vi' and
>'tcsh'.
>I want games! Yes, and I'm not talking about packman.
>
>I want my network configured automaticly, I don't have time to become an expert
>on networks and it doesn't really interest me at all either.



In Fedora that are wizards for network configuration.




>I want to have an update button for automatic patching. I can't imagine having
>to spend time browsing through webpages to find new patches - this should be an
>integral part of the OS and happen as automaticly as possible.



Most major distros offer it now.




>Finally, and this is really the biggie for me, lot of great software just
>doesn't exist on Linux, such as 3D studio max, Photoshop and (ugh) Chessbase.


You have great (free) equivalents for most (expensive) Windows applications.

When you do not find the equivalent it is possible to use an emulation software
like Win4lin that will allow you to run that Windows application on your Linux
dsktop.




>>So I never switched to XP. I switched to Linux instead, and I am glad I did.
>>
>>Of course it's not perfect every day. But I have spent 15 years dealing with
>>problems caused by Windows and the fact that Microsoft has always placed market
>>lock-in over respect for their customers. Compared to that, the few problems I
>>have experienced with Linux are NOTHING.
>
>You quit windows at a bad time, you should definitely have tried 2000 or XP.
>
>Those are minor revolutions with regard to stability over the very crappy winME.
>
>I went from win98 to win2k, I was very impressed with 2k, then I tried winME for
>about 1 week.
>I can honestly say, that winME is the worst OS I have ever used, it crashed like
>3 times an hour.
>
>With winXP I can count the number of crashes on one hand, it is extremely stable
>and I don't even treat it very nice. :)
>
>-S.



So you are telling me that Windows is finally catching up with Linux in
stability?

Fine. But the problem also comes from the fact that this (expensive) product
comes from a company whose only goal is to get more and more control every day,
and who has abused from its monopoly positions at every occasion.

There is a very good alternative out there to this company's product, and I have
decided to use it and to tell others about it.



    Christophe



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