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Subject: Re: Crafty19.15 Benchmarks on Anandtech Xeon 3.6 vs Opteron 150

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 11:09:35 08/13/04

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On August 13, 2004 at 12:44:21, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On August 13, 2004 at 11:55:12, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>
>>On August 13, 2004 at 02:12:04, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>>
>>>All the bad press finally got him redo the review. I told'em a few cflags he
>>>could use to make performance better.. unfortunately he didn't do the PGO
>>>optimization. I think he thought because I said I used GCC 3.4.1 that it was
>>>only available in 3.4.1, who knows..
>>>
>>>Anyway, looks like the 64bit stuff on the Nacona offers no performance benefit
>>>(only addressing). Would fit with the rumors I heard a few months back. We'll
>>>see I guess. Supposedly they just "got it working" for now and will fix the
>>>performance issue later.
>>>
>>>Anyone know any hard facts about the 64bit Xeon stuff? Broken?
>>
>>I thought Nocona was an implementation of of AMD64 ?
>>
>>anthony
>
>From what I hear it is, however supposedly it only has the addressing of a 64bit
>chip (ie. can use that much ram, can use 64bit integers/fp/etc), but cannot do
>them as fast as it is suppose to be. The way I heard it described was like it
>was using the 32bit registers to do all of the stuff.. similar to a regular P4
>trying to do a __int64, long long, or double.
>
>I can't verify this, but from the results that Anandtech did it sure looks like
>the rumor may be true. The other part of the rumor was that Intel was going to
>fix it soon. I think this was a quick add-on after they saw x86-64 was the next
>big thing and didn't have time to rework the core to get it functioning 100%.
>
>I guess we'll see in the months ahead...

Hmm, that would definitely be possible.  And _something_ is wrong with the
Crafty benchmark because in 32 bit mode the opteron is not _that_ much faster
than the P4 for Crafty.

anthony



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