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Subject: Re: [OT] Development Release: Mandrakelinux 10.1 beta 1 [OT]

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 15:17:17 08/13/04

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On August 13, 2004 at 16:24:19, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On August 13, 2004 at 11:53:50, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On August 12, 2004 at 15:55:45, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>
>>>On August 12, 2004 at 14:37:14, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 12, 2004 at 13:22:51, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>That's not really the problem. The problem is about abuse of power by one
>>>>>company that has repeatedly proven that it does not hesitate to break the law
>>>>>whenever it sees an opportunity to get more control over the world. Now that a
>>>>>strong alternative exists, why are we still giving our money and support to the
>>>>abuser?
>>>>
>>>>For which misuse of power the EU recently penalized MS for 500 million euro.
>>>>
>>>>As a frequent buyer of new hardware I estimate I have at least paid 10 times for
>>>>W98/XP while I did not want to have it. It's almost impossible here to buy a new
>>>>PC without Windows.
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>
>>>Ed, as I posted in that thread several times, in the USA large manufacturers are
>>>selling PCs without Windows preinstalled. If situation in Europe is different,
>>>that is not MS fault.
>>>
>>>I previous posts I gave some numbers and speculated why manufacturers are
>>>preferring to sell Windows-only systems:
>>>
>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?381764
>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?381847
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Eugene
>>
>>
>>
>>Nice theory study using an Internet search that does not hold water when you try
>>in practice, in the real world, to get a computer from a known brand without
>>Windows. It is very difficult to get a desktop computer from Dell/HP/IBM/Toshiba
>>and so on without Windows. It is in practice IMPOSSIBLE to get a laptop from
>>these manufacturers without Windows.
>
>http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1635575,00.asp
>
>Enrique
>
>>    Christophe



I'm anxiously waiting to be able to buy this model where I live, and I hope it
will be available before the laptop I'm currently using dies. The article
clearly mentions that this model will be available in the US only. That leaves
the majority of us out of the deal.

I hope to see such deals available worldwide, and I ask my IBM/Dell/HP/Toshiba
representatives every time I see them.

So far no success. Can't buy a laptop without Windows here, no matter how good
the press annoucements sound on the Internet.



    Christophe



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