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Subject: Re: Test position from Martin Fierz homepage

Author: Vasik Rajlich

Date: 02:20:15 08/17/04

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On August 16, 2004 at 14:40:34, Martin Giepmans wrote:

>On August 16, 2004 at 13:05:35, Vasik Rajlich wrote:
>
>>On August 16, 2004 at 08:46:12, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>
>>>I found this position here http://www.fierz.ch/pontresina.htm , after I searched
>>>10 min with no board and then 10 with a board and then 20 with chessengine, I
>>>gave up ... is this position buggy ??
>>>
>>>pasting :
>>>
>>> A cool (and very instructive) position which occurred in round 5: black to move
>>>and win! This one is harder than you think :-)
>>>Click here for a hint!
>>>The obvious 1... c4+ only draws. To win, you need to know something about
>>>'corresponding squares'.
>>>
>>>[d]8/8/4p2p/1kp1P1p1/1p4P1/1P1K2P1/7P/8 b - - 0 1
>>
>>That is a cool anti-computer problem! White's possibilities with the h-pawn will
>>keep any engine from getting it.
>>
>>Try putting the white h2 pawn on h5 and with a reasonable hash table any engine
>>should handle it.
>
>I guess that you mean h4 instead of h5? With the white h2 pawn on h5 the obvious
>move (c4) is a clear win. A least that's what my engine thinks. Score jumps to
>approx. + 20 within a few seconds, so unless I have a huge bug ... :)
>
>Martin
>

Aha, yes - white needs to be able to pass once after .. c4+ bxc4+ Kc5. With the
white pawn on h4 as you mention it should work, and be more engine-friendly than
with the pawn on h2.

Anyway, Dieter showed in the above thread that there is a second win for black,
with .. Ka5 and .. c4 right away. Less elegant, but more forcing.

Vas

>
>>
>>As for the correspondences, start with
>>
>>b5 & d3 (else .. c4)
>>c6 & e4 (else .. kd5)
>>
>>and it's easy from there ...
>>
>>Vas



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