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Subject: Re: Oha, the pic / grafic is in German but ...

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 12:43:37 08/19/04

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On August 19, 2004 at 14:26:07, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>On August 19, 2004 at 11:12:01, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>
>Hi Anthony,
>
>>Arena still needs some bugfixing.  Among other things, the program seems to have
>>major trouble when two versions are running; either you guys should fix the
>>problem or have it detect a previously running instance.
>>
>>Secondly, a lot of the dialog boxes need to be cleaned up . . arena tends to
>>have a cluttered feel to it.
>>
>>Just a little feedback.  Arena is miles better than winboard, but it does not
>>yet have the polish I expect from excellent software.
>>
>>anthony
>
>01. Why two versions of Arena have to run?
>But Martin have develops a "Restarter" !!
>Perhaps this solved the problem and perhaps you test it and send a new comment
>about the problem!

What I mean is that I run Zappa in arena, I find a problem (because I was
implementing UCI, there were a lot).  Then I fix the problem, but I forget that
I have arena open.  When I try to open another instance of arena, the program
becomes unstable.  So it should either A) not become unstable or B) just switch
to the previously running instance.

>02. Give me examples for the dialog boxes you write!
>I need examples, only your opinion without a clear defination is for us not very
>interesting. Give me examples please and we try to make it better. This is the
>most important point for us, we have interest to make it better but we need
>clearly opinions by users.

Actually I really like the screenshot you put up.  It is a good step in the
right direction.  I just think you & Martin should go through each window in
arena, and try to arrange things, choose colors & widgets etc, to make the
program look better.

>03. I expect from an excellent software a lot!
>No program can give me that what I expect. Arena is in the near, we have a lot
>to do, a lot ideas, the users have a lot of ideas and the complete team which
>help us. If we expect an excellent software we can give up the development of
>Arena.

At least for me, perfection is always the goal.

anthony

>But for me Arena is clearly the number one from all available GUIs I know. The
>reason is easy ... each persons which used chess software await different
>things. I am very happy because I await a good compatibility. This is for me the
>most important point for a good chess GUI.
>
>Bugfixes:
>Yes, we collect the bugs in an open system.
>A lot of persons are thinking ... "Arena must have a lot of bugs".
>I don't think so ... I believe Arena is the most stabil software because all the
>bugs which are open reported the programmer try to fixed. The most companys (not
>chess only) have the problem that users don't reported problems or the
>programmer of the programs can't solved the problems. I know different
>programmers with work in bigger company's and different have the following
>opinion:
>
>A bug!
>OK, not an important bug and I don't have to solved the bug!
>
>But of course:
>For the most is this a little problem because the users can read in our buglist
>but can't read in an other buglist of development chess GUIs. And now a lot of
>persons are thinking ... "Oh Arena is Freeware (Freeware in Germany seems to be
>a bad word) and the most are thinking ... "So many mistakes" ...
>
>We like the constellation to work in open systems!
>I know that Arena works for all the complicated options very stabil.
>
>Thanks for your opinion!
>I hope of more impressions to the point you speak about it!
>
>Best
>Frank



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