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Subject: Re: Sempron vs. Athlon 64: (more)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:35:47 08/22/04

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On August 22, 2004 at 11:18:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 22, 2004 at 03:11:59, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>On August 21, 2004 at 17:48:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>That is _all_ I have said.  I don't know what my working set is.  I don't care
>>>what it is.  I do know that for two different testers, bigger cache was faster,
>>>for Tom it wasn't.  Why that is I have no idea, I really don't care, and I don't
>>>see any point in investigating further.
>>
>>I didn't test 256k to 512k at all, remember? That was from a hardware review
>>site that I have nothing to do with.
>>
>>I did run the 512k to 1024k experiment and my dual proc experiment, both of
>>which confirm the conclusion that I drew from Anandtech's data.
>>
>>-Tom
>
>
>OK.  My error.  However, Anandtech doesn't have a stellar reputation of late
>with regards to such tests.  See their gaffe with TSCP.
>
>I have personally run 512K 1024K and 2048K.  And I saw results from 1.5MB and
>3.0MB when Eugene ran his tests.  All the AMDs I have access to are opterons
>with 1024K of L2:
>
>processor       : 0
>vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
>cpu family      : 15
>model           : 5
>model name      : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 850
>stepping        : 10
>cpu MHz         : 2388.870
>cache size      : 1024 KB
>fpu             : yes
>fpu_exception   : yes
>cpuid level     : 1
>wp              : yes
>flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
>pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow
>bogomips        : 4771.02
>TLB size        : 1088 4K pages
>clflush size    : 64
>address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
>power management: ts fid vid ttp


BTW I don't know what they used for the test.  The SPECINT version of crafty was
_way_ scaled down.  IE eval missing, only the chess "kernel" with just enough
support code to be able to run test suites, etc.  That was pretty
cache-friendly.  The current version is less friendly because it is
significantly bigger.

I don't pay much attention to any testing from such sites as I have seen way too
much pro-intel or pro-amd bias here and there.  I follow my own advice pretty
well.  "always benchmark yourself when making purchasing decisions..."




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