Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:16:33 09/03/04
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On September 03, 2004 at 18:10:57, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On September 03, 2004 at 16:44:42, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On September 03, 2004 at 15:07:17, Graham Banks wrote: >> >>>On September 03, 2004 at 13:17:51, robert flesher wrote: >>> >>>>If you are going to waste your precious time and everyone else here then please >>>>indicate that you have given unfair advantages to certain engines. > > If in a football match starts raining, can the players of the one(much >stronger) team, complain about unfair advantage if they can't play well with >these conditions? > Ok it's not the same in it's general idea, but it rejects your "unfair >advantage" statement. > > What sort of twisted logic is that. One program plays e4, the other replies Nh6 or something odd (and bad). How is that related to "playing in the rain?" If you play football, you will play in the rain on occasion. But Crafty, playing in _any_ event where I have any control, will _never_ open up with 1. a4 or other such nonsense. So why should it have to be able to play poor openings in events where I an _not_ involved??? Makes no sense to me... >>> >>>I think people should read the setup details and maybe look through the whole >>>range of games before going off half cocked! >>>All engines are using the Fritz powerbook tournament settings. There is the odd >>>strange opening due to the maximum variety setting used, but I think you'll find >>>that this has equally affected all engines and that no particular engine has >>>been disadvantaged. >> >>Certainly, but the conclusion that no engine has been disadvantaged might be >>wrong. > > I think he means that the conditions for each engine are equal**. Replace "equal" with "random" which is _not_ the same thing... He plays the >tournament and gives the same hash for each engine, the same hardware, the same >book, etc... It isn't his fault if some engines can't play unusual openings. > But in fact does all engines have to learn to play unusual openings? In my >opinion NO. It is worthless. But the tournament itself is not bad because of >this. It has some bad opening lines, but that's all. Of course it could be >better and it will be in the future after changing a little the book-settings >for the main tournament). > > >**Not exactly equal since the opening choice is random so.... > >>Bob simply doesn´t care a straw how Crafty plays unusual openings since they >>never happen on his machines. >>A typical example is 1.c4 g5 ?!(at least) 2.Nc3 and now Crafty played >>2...Nf6? -+ IMHO. >>
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