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Subject: Re: Crafty Question for Dr. Hyatt

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 05:32:29 01/07/99

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On January 06, 1999 at 18:51:09, James T. Walker wrote:

>I was running some test today on Crafty when I decided to install it on my AMD
>K6-2 computer which runs at 350 Mhz.  I set crafty(15.20) up to run a problem on
>both computers to compare speeds.  The Pentium II @ 333 Mhz runs Crafty twice as
>fast as the K6-2-350.  Can you explain the large difference in speed between the
>two machines?  I have done this test on other programs and usually the K6-2 is
>10-20% faster than the Pentium II.  So the Pentium II running Crafty at twice
>the speed is really a shocker.  I tried Crafty 16.3 also.  Same thing.  Two logs
>listed below.
>


first thing to try is to run your test again, but in a dos box, and run
it like this:

crafty >output.1

it is possible that your "scrolling" is causing part of this problem.  This
can generate a _lot_ of screen I/O and scrolling can be inefficient.  It might
be that the AMD is getting killed here.  I know of no reason why the AMD would
be slower executing crafty, based on results I have seen from others that use
these processors...

maybe an even better test would be to reboot windows in dos-mode so there is no
windows stuff going on at all..





>hash table memory = 48M bytes.
>pawn hash table memory = 10M bytes.
> game/30 minutes primary time control
>
>
>Crafty v15.20
>
>White(1): edit
>
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    8  |   |   |   |   |   | *K|   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    7  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    6  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    5  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    4  |   | P |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    3  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    2  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    1  |   |   |   | K |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>         a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
>
>White(1): display
>White(1): go
>end-game phase
>              clearing hash tables
>              time limit 51.42 (5:08)
>              depth   time  score   variation (1)
>                9     0.07   2.21   1. Ke2 Ke7 2. Ke3 Kd7 3. Kd4 Kd6 4.
>                                    b5 Kc7 5. Kc5
>                9     0.08     ++   1. Kc2!!
>                9     0.08   7.12   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc6 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kd5 5. Kb5
>                9->   0.09   7.12   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc6 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kd5 5. Kb5
>               10     0.10     --   1. Kc2
>               10     0.13   2.21   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Kc4 Kc6 4.
>                                    b5+ Kb6 5. Kb4 Kc7 6. Kc5 <HT>
>               10->   0.14   2.21   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Kc4 Kc6 4.
>                                    b5+ Kb6 5. Kb4 Kc7 6. Kc5 <HT>
>               11     0.15     ++   1. Kc2!!
>               11     0.17   7.41   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc6 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc7 5. Ka6 Kc6 6. b5+ Kd5
>               11->   0.19   7.41   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc6 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc7 5. Ka6 Kc6 6. b5+ Kd5
>               12     0.20     --   1. Kc2
>               12     0.22   2.57   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc6 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc7 5. b5 Kb7 6. b6 Kc6 7. Ka6
>               12->   0.23   2.57   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc6 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc7 5. b5 Kb7 6. b6 Kc6 7. Ka6
>               13     0.25     ++   1. Kc2!!
>               13     0.28   7.49   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc6 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc7 5. Ka6 Kd6 6. b5 Ke5 7. Kb6
>               13->   0.29   7.49   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc6 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc7 5. Ka6 Kd6 6. b5 Ke5 7. Kb6
>               14     0.32   7.51   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc6 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc7 5. Ka6 Kd6 6. b5 Kc7 7. Ka7
>                                    <HT>
>               14->   0.34   7.51   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc6 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc7 5. Ka6 Kd6 6. b5 Kc7 7. Ka7
>                                    <HT>
>               15     0.36     ++   1. Kc2!!
>               15     0.40   8.37   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc6 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc7 5. Ka6 Kd6 6. b5 Kc7 7. Ka7
>                                    Kd6 8. b6 Kd5
>               15->   0.42   8.37   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc6 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc7 5. Ka6 Kd6 6. b5 Kc7 7. Ka7
>                                    Kd6 8. b6 Kd5
>               16     0.47   8.41   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc6 5. Ka6 Kc7 6. b5 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. Kc6 Ka7
>               16->   0.49   8.41   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc6 5. Ka6 Kc7 6. b5 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. Kc6 Ka7
>               17     0.54   8.47   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc6 5. Ka6 Kc7 6. b5 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Kc8 8. Ka7 Kc7 9. b6+ Kd6
>               17->   0.55   8.47   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kc6 5. Ka6 Kc7 6. b5 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Kc8 8. Ka7 Kc7 9. b6+ Kd6
>               18     0.61     --   1. Kc2
>               18     0.64   8.49   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. b5
>                                    Ka7 8. Kc7 Ka8 9. Kc6 Kb8 10. Kd6 <HT>
>               18->   0.65   8.49   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. b5
>                                    Ka7 8. Kc7 Ka8 9. Kc6 Kb8 10. Kd6 <HT>
>               19     0.71   8.51   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. b5
>                                    Ka7 8. Kc7 Ka8 9. Kb6 Kb8 10. Kc6
>               19->   0.72   8.51   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. b5
>                                    Ka7 8. Kc7 Ka8 9. Kb6 Kb8 10. Kc6
>               20     0.75     --   1. Kc2
>               20     0.81   7.95   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. b5
>                                    Ka7 8. Kc7 Ka8 9. Kd7 Kb7 10. Ke6 Kb6
>               20->   0.83   7.95   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. b5
>                                    Ka7 8. Kc7 Ka8 9. Kd7 Kb7 10. Ke6 Kb6
>               21     0.86     ++   1. Kc2!!
>               21->   0.88   8.34   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. b5
>                                    Ka7 8. Kc7 Ka8 9. Kd7 Kb7 10. Ke6 Kb6
>               22     0.93     --   1. Kc2
>               22     1.03   7.51   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. b5
>                                    Ka7 8. Kc7 Ka8 9. Kb6 Kb8 10. Ka6 Kc7
>                                    11. Ka7 Kd6
>               22->   1.05   7.51   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. b5
>                                    Ka7 8. Kc7 Ka8 9. Kb6 Kb8 10. Ka6 Kc7
>                                    11. Ka7 Kd6
>               23     1.09     ++   1. Kc2!!
>               23     1.17   9.52   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. b6+ Kc8
>                                    11. Ka7 Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. b8=Q Kf5
>               23->   1.19   9.52   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. b6+ Kc8
>                                    11. Ka7 Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. b8=Q Kf5
>               24     1.29   9.87   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. b6+ Kc8
>                                    11. Ka7 Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. b8=Q Kf5
>                                    14. Kb6
>               24->   1.31   9.87   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. b6+ Kc8
>                                    11. Ka7 Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. b8=Q Kf5
>                                    14. Kb6
>               25     1.45   9.89   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. b6+ Kc8
>                                    11. Ka7 Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. b8=Q Kf5
>                                    14. Qf8+ Ke4 15. Kb6
>               25->   1.47   9.89   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. b6+ Kc8
>                                    11. Ka7 Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. b8=Q Kf5
>                                    14. Qf8+ Ke4 15. Kb6
>               26     1.62  10.18   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. Ka7 Kd8
>                                    11. b6 Kd7 12. b7 Kc6 13. b8=Q Kc5
>                                    <HT>
>               26->   1.64  10.18   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. Ka7 Kd8
>                                    11. b6 Kd7 12. b7 Kc6 13. b8=Q Kc5
>                                    <HT>
>               27     1.91  10.28   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. Ka7 Kd8
>                                    11. b6 Kd7 12. b7 Kc6 13. b8=Q Kd5
>                                    14. Qd8+ Ke4 15. Kb6 Kf3 16. Kc6
>               27->   1.94  10.28   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. Ka7 Kd8
>                                    11. b6 Kd7 12. b7 Kc6 13. b8=Q Kd5
>                                    14. Qd8+ Ke4 15. Kb6 Kf3 16. Kc6
>               28     2.38  10.40   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. Ka7 Kd8
>                                    11. b6 Kd7 12. b7 Kc6 13. b8=Q Kd5
>                                    14. Kb6 Kd4 15. Qd6+ Ke4 16. Qe6+ Kf4
>                                    17. Kc6 <HT>
>               28->   2.41  10.40   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. Ka7 Kd8
>                                    11. b6 Kd7 12. b7 Kc6 13. b8=Q Kd5
>                                    14. Kb6 Kd4 15. Qd6+ Ke4 16. Qe6+ Kf4
>                                    17. Kc6 <HT>
>               29     3.81  10.62   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. Ka7 Kd8
>                                    11. b6 Kd7 12. b7 Kc6 13. b8=Q Kd5
>                                    14. Kb6 Ke4 15. Kc5 Kf3 16. Qe5 Kg4
>               29->   3.84  10.62   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. Ka7 Kd8
>                                    11. b6 Kd7 12. b7 Kc6 13. b8=Q Kd5
>                                    14. Kb6 Ke4 15. Kc5 Kf3 16. Qe5 Kg4
>               30     6.95  10.82   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. Ka7 Kd8
>                                    11. b6 Kd7 12. b7 Kc6 13. b8=Q Kd5
>                                    14. Kb6 Kd4 15. Qd6+ Ke4 16. Kc5 Kf5
>                                    17. Kd5 Kg4
>               30->   6.98  10.82   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. Ka7 Kd8
>                                    11. b6 Kd7 12. b7 Kc6 13. b8=Q Kd5
>                                    14. Kb6 Kd4 15. Qd6+ Ke4 16. Kc5 Kf5
>                                    17. Kd5 Kg4
>               31    12.43  10.90   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. Ka7 Kd8
>                                    11. b6 Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. b8=Q Kf5
>                                    14. Qg3 Ke4 15. Qg4+ Kd3 16. Kb6 Ke3
>                                    17. Kc5 Kd2 18. Qd4+ <HT>
>               31->  12.45  10.90   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. Ka7 Kd8
>                                    11. b6 Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. b8=Q Kf5
>                                    14. Qg3 Ke4 15. Qg4+ Kd3 16. Kb6 Ke3
>                                    17. Kc5 Kd2 18. Qd4+ <HT>
>               32    22.50  11.02   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. b6+ Kc8
>                                    11. Ka7 Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. Kb6 Kd5
>                                    14. b8=Q Ke4 15. Kc5 Kf3 16. Qe5 Kg2
>                                    17. Qf5 Kh2 18. Kd5
>               32->  22.53  11.02   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. b6+ Kc8
>                                    11. Ka7 Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. Kb6 Kd5
>                                    14. b8=Q Ke4 15. Kc5 Kf3 16. Qe5 Kg2
>                                    17. Qf5 Kh2 18. Kd5
>               33    39.42  11.09   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. b6+ Kc8
>                                    11. Ka7 Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. b8=Q Kf5
>                                    14. Qc8+ Kf4 15. Kb6 Ke3 16. Qg4 Kd3
>                                    17. Qf3+ Kd4 18. Qf5 Ke3 19. Kc5 <HT>
>               33->  39.45  11.09   1. Kc2 Ke7 2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4.
>                                    Ka5 Kb7 5. Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6
>                                    Ka8 8. b5 Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. b6+ Kc8
>                                    11. Ka7 Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. b8=Q Kf5
>                                    14. Qc8+ Kf4 15. Kb6 Ke3 16. Qg4 Kd3
>                                    17. Qf3+ Kd4 18. Qf5 Ke3 19. Kc5 <HT>
>              time=51.60  cpu=99%  mat=1  n=12900294  fh=94%  nps=250005
>              ext-> checks=2492596 recaps=0 pawns=37299 1rep=10650
>              predicted=0  nodes=12900294  evals=4385863
>              endgame tablebase-> probes done=0  successful=0
>              hashing-> trans/ref=128%  pawn=99%  used=w10% b18%
>
>White(1): Kc2
>              time used:  51.61
>
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    8  |   |   |   |   |   | *K|   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    7  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    6  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    5  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    4  |   | P |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    3  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    2  |   |   | K |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    1  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>         a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
>
>Black(1): Ke7 [pondering]
>              time limit 49.95 (4:59)
>              depth   time  score   variation (32)
>               32     3.66  11.17   2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4. Ka5 Kb7 5.
>                                    Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6 Ka8 8. b5
>                                    Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. b6+ Kc8 11. Ka7
>                                    Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. b8=Q Kf5 14. Qb4
>                                    Kg6 15. Qf4 Kh5 16. Kb6 Kg6 17. Qb8
>                                    Kf5 18. Kb7 Ke4 19. Ka6 <HT>
>               32->   4.40  11.17   2. Kb3 Kd6 3. Ka4 Kc7 4. Ka5 Kb7 5.
>                                    Kb5 Ka7 6. Kc6 Kb8 7. Kb6 Ka8 8. b5
>                                    Kb8 9. Ka6 Kc7 10. b6+ Kc8 11. Ka7
>                                    Kd7 12. b7 Ke6 13. b8=Q Kf5 14. Qb4
>                                    Kg6 15. Qf4 Kh5 16. Kb6 Kg6 17. Qb8
>                                    Kf5 18. Kb7 Ke4 19. Ka6 <HT>
>Black(1): end
>LearnBook() executed
>execution complete.



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