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Subject: Re: Knee jerk reaction!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 16:51:11 09/15/04

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On September 15, 2004 at 17:20:10, David Dahlem wrote:

>On September 15, 2004 at 12:25:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 15, 2004 at 09:52:04, David Dahlem wrote:
>>
>>>>1. g4 is in ECO.  1. f3 2. Kf2 is in ECO.
>>>>
>>>>They are _definitely_ oddball.
>>>
>>>Yes, these two examples are not the norm, i agree. And there are not any lines
>>>like this in the books i use for testing engines. BUT, if each engine plays the
>>>black and white side of these lines, it's still a fair match.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Dave
>>
>>Then back to the Karate mat.  We have the same equipment, the same mat, the same
>>environment.  Is it _really_ "fair"?  Or do our _skills_ factor in as well?
>>
>>I haven't tested with 1. g4.  I haven't done _any_ tuning for such positions.
>>SOmeone else might have.  So nothing says it is "fair" or "representative".
>>
>>That is _the_ point here...
>
>If someone else has tuned for lines or positions that you haven't, then it's to
>his advantage.
>
>There is no way you can tune for every position that might arise in a game of
>chess, so what's the big deal with testers using their own testing method? The
>engine with the least number of weaknesses should be rewarded for being more
>versatile overall.
>
>Regards
>Dave


Please think about what is happening.  If I only include 1. d4 for Crafty to
play, I just eliminated a _lot_ of potential opening theory.  No one can force
me to play anything but 1. d4, unless they replace my book.  I play d4 a lot to
avoid lots of tricky book analysis done by the pros, because 1. d4 certainly
limits black's choices, where I can attempt to control things better.  I don't
have to tune for _every_ position, which is my point.  I can construct my book
so that I only play into positions where things work well...




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