Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 11:38:53 10/01/04
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On October 01, 2004 at 10:41:05, Tony Hedlund wrote: >On October 01, 2004 at 10:07:34, Mike Byrne wrote: > >>On October 01, 2004 at 05:40:19, Tony Hedlund wrote: >> >>>On October 01, 2004 at 00:43:45, Mike Byrne wrote: >>> >>>>On September 30, 2004 at 23:52:18, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 30, 2004 at 23:03:19, Peter Skinner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On September 30, 2004 at 19:59:08, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On September 30, 2004 at 18:30:40, Peter Skinner wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On September 30, 2004 at 18:02:21, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Again Crafty lost an Nimzo-Indian with white. When will it change to 1.e4? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>It won't. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>:) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Do you honestly feel Crafty plays better vs computers with 1.d4? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I find in online games that Crafty does very well with 1.e4 or 1.Nf3 against >>>>>>>>computers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The problem is professional book lines in 1. e4 openings... >>>>>> >>>>>>I see your point. >>>>>> >>>>>>Would it not be better to supply an opening bookc.bin that would refute many of >>>>>>the lines, or at best come out of the opening even? >>>>>> >>>>>>Playing 1.d4 is simply going to get Crafty in trouble in quite a few of the >>>>>>games. You can only play it so many times before learning hurts you instead of >>>>>>helping you. >>>>>> >>>>>>Peter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>The thing is, they play X games with one computer, so learning ought to fix this >>>>>up unless the Nimzo lines are so well plotted that everything it tries fails. >>>>> >>>>>Making a special SSDF opening book is not something I have time to do. Nor >>>>>anyone else I know of. IE Peter has some stuff from the WCCC, but we'd not want >>>>>to reveal that via SSDF testing as we will likely play in the next WCCC event >>>>>and will need a unknown book for it... >>>> >>>>The book for SSDF appears to be more or less a generic plain jane book based >>>>on top GM games. My own testing with new clean books like this -- it will take >>>>at lest about 20 -25 games to really get some "good" learning action. So it >>>>may take a little bit of time. >>> >>>The lrn-files is still empty. Is this ok? Will it take more games for Crafty to >>>start learning? Or is the learning stored somewhere else? >>> >> >> >>Learning is on by default -- it is possible, based on how Crafty came out of the >>opening, there was no learning. One thing you can check -- see if the the book >>files I sent you still have the same date/time stamp --- if they do, no learning >>has occurred. > >It's still the same date. > >Tony yes. Somehow there is a "learn=0" somewhere that is turning off all learning completely... > >>I would be surprised if there has been no learning after the number of games >>you have already played. I believed some learning should have happened by now. >> >>Mike
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