Author: martin fierz
Date: 07:35:57 10/12/04
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On October 12, 2004 at 06:08:15, Vasik Rajlich wrote: >On October 11, 2004 at 16:06:54, martin fierz wrote: > >>On October 11, 2004 at 13:10:07, robert flesher wrote: >> >>>I would seem logical that all the worlds top players play computers on a regular >>>basis. Also, it would be probable they have systems that rival or even exceed >>>the one Junior is playing on. Why not? I know if my main source of income is >>>chess, and i have the money(Which some i'm sure do)then i would have one hellva >>>good computer. I would bet all of the players own a copy of top software, and >>>play these programs daily. >> >>hmm, i don't think you understand this. i also have fritz and shredder on my PC, >>and i use them to prepare, and to analyse games. but i never play against them. >>GMs are the same. they use these engines as tools, but not as sparring partners. >>and even if they ever play a game at home against these things, it's simply not >>the same. >> >>experience in playing against computers means that you have played a match >>against such a machine. everything else doesn't count. just look how much >>kasparov's anti-computer play has improved over his matches. > >Interestingly Kasparov has gravitated towards normal, open positions. For >example, games 1 & 4 from the last match vs X3D Fritz. i noticed too. none of that chicken-chess that he played against deeper blue any more! and also some specifically chosen openings which are good against computers, like his slav with an early g4. also the game he lost was in fact very nice. i certainly think that in those later matches he had a much clearer idea of what to play and what not to play against the machine. cheers martin > >It's still true that in certain types of closed positions the engines are very >weak (ie game 3 from that match), but I guess it's hard to put together a match >strategy around just that. > >Perhaps the biggest advantage top humans have versus engines is their opening >expertise - and open positions maximize the effect of the opening. > >Vas > >> >>cheers >> martin
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