Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 22:19:10 10/20/04
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On October 20, 2004 at 18:46:38, Uri Blass wrote:
>On October 20, 2004 at 14:50:53, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On October 20, 2004 at 14:23:48, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>>
>>>On October 20, 2004 at 13:37:52, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 20, 2004 at 11:08:45, emerson tan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Who are the players of a team you will choose that will play against the team of
>>>>>computers consist of hydra, shredder, fritz, junior. hiarcs, rebel and chess
>>>>>tiger?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I would choose, kramnik, leko, anand, karpov, seirawan, ulf andersson and im
>>>>>still looking for the 7th player. I choose them because of their style that
>>>>>computers will have a hard time. karpov, seirawan and ulf andersson are "old"
>>>>>and they may easily get a blunder and lose energy, that's the drawback. Maybe
>>>>>bareev, dreev, gelfand who is solid, vallejo pons, very solid, kasparov cannot
>>>>>win against him.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Who are the other players you would nominate?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who is still interested in such matches?
>>>
>>>Me. But why do you say that? Because humans play with the "wrong way" or because
>>>the inevitable loss of human is coming with a huge speed?
>>
>>
>> Hi George
>> I pressed too fast the sent button -:)
>> But what I wanted to say is that I am not
>> interested in further matches unless top
>> GM's have learnt how to play vs computer
>> programs. I have pity on GM's not doing
>> this way as too much respectless people
>> are loughing at the unlucky GM's who of
>> course do understand chess many times better
>> than any computer program.
>
>Of course machines by definition understand nothing and only calculate and chess
>is about playing and not about understanding.
>
> It's still my opinion
>> that computers would hardly ever win a game
>> (even vs 2200 Elo players) if humans would
>> follow a do-nothing-but-do-it-well-strategy.
>> Kurt
>
>I do not know.
>I guess that we need to see more games of arnold hasidovsky against computers
>to find if you are correct(he drew 3 programs in the israeli league with that
>technique but today software and hardware is better and 3 games are not enough
>games to get conclusions.
Hi Uri
Three games are of course not enough to conlude something.
With the do-nothing-but-do-it-well-strategy I think that
hardware is not very important.
Kurt
>
>
>Note that I asked to delete the replyb to your post in
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?392564 and I ask people not to
>reply to that nonsense.
>
>Uri
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