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Subject: Re: Open Dutch CCC final results

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 17:51:11 10/24/04

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On October 24, 2004 at 19:35:58, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On October 24, 2004 at 19:08:41, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>I think that the results are the same if you played against the same opponents
>>and scored the same.
>>
>>Diep won weaker opponents so diep's result is worse.
>>I do not think that there is logic in deciding about winner based on result when
>>the players scored the same and played against the same opponents.
>>
>>I see no reason to decide that beating a strong opponent and losing against a
>>weak opponent is worth more than losing against a strong opponent and beating a
>>weak opponent.
>>
>>People needed way to decide about a winner when everywhere else was equal in the
>>opponents so they used that method but when not everything else is the same then
>>the most logical decision is to decide based on strength of the opponents.
>
>You are claiming that it is more logical to decide the title on a random pick
>(since that is effectively what SOP is in a small tournament with a lot of
>rounds), than to define in advance that a win over a stronger opponent (and
>losing vs a weaker one) is worth more than a win over a weaker opponent (and a
>loss against a strong one), and decide the winner that way.
>
>The fact that nobody agrees with your "logic" is why the rules were changed
>since last year.
>
>--
>GCP

There is no real good way to do tiebreaks.  In fact, after my CCT experience I'm
not sure they are even necessary - why not just let X people claim "shared
first".

However, I suspect that there wouldn't be nearly as many people complaining if
Vincent hadn't won.  Granted some of that is his fault, but its still pretty
pathetic.

anthony



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