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Subject: Re: Help needed: How can I search a 6 piece position by Nalimov tablebases?

Author: Vasik Rajlich

Date: 05:24:22 12/04/04

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On December 04, 2004 at 07:00:11, Tansel Turgut wrote:

>On December 04, 2004 at 06:54:48, Vasik Rajlich wrote:
>>One computer trick is to let the position run overnight and if the scores you
>>get haven't skyrocketed it's probably drawn. That is, if white is promoting a
>>pawn here then a 30-ply search should be able to find it.
>>
>>You might even try it with an a-pawn instead of c-pawn just to see roughly how
>>many plies are needed to find a clear win.
>>
>>For what it's worth - I'd guess draw. Ie. 1. .. Nc4 2. Kf2 Kg4 or 2. Kg2 Kf4.
>>
>>Vas
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>
>Dear Vas, nice to hear from you..
>
>it's not so easy for black. If the king remains on the king side, white can get
>his king on the queen side, and then limitimg the available squares with the
>bishop, may prevent black from sacrificing the knight for the bishop.
>
>The computer programs give high evaluations for white, but they don't understand
>the bishops of opposite colors.
>
>Can i generate a 6 piece table base with these material?
>
>Tansel

Hi Tansel,

yes - nice to hear from you also. I'd ask if you're a GM yet but I know these
tournaments take like 4 years :)

Re. white giving up the h-pawn - as soon as this happens, you can already access
the tablebases. For instance, the variation 1. .. Nc4 2. Kf2 Kh4 3. Bg8 Nd6 4.
Ke3 Kh3 5. Kf4 Kxh2 6. Ke5 Nc8 is drawn. Maybe you can enumerate all the
different ways in which white can give up the h-pawn, and look up each
possibility in the TBs.

As far as generating the six-piece tablebase - you might try contacting Eugene
Nalimov (obviously) or maybe Bob Hyatt.

Vas



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