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Subject: Re: So much for those who attacked me re. Shr. 7.04, 8.0 etc.

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:58:04 12/31/04

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On December 31, 2004 at 09:27:00, Ziad Haddad wrote:

>According to my own tests, Shredder 8 is slightly than Shredder 7.04. The mai
>difference according to me is due to the fact that Shredder8 ponders 15% fastly
>than his predecessor. But i've got a great assumption, always with my own tests
>i find that Shredder7.04 with my Haddad1.2DP2 setting is stronger than
>Shredder8. When facing one each other Shredder 8 beats my setting but the
>results of matches vs the other top engines are slightly in favor of
>Shredder7.04. That's why i'm actually trying to find a better setting for
>Shredder8.
>I wonder if SSDF will test my setting as they done with CM9000 SKR then Shredder
>7.04 will be on top again.
>The latest SSDF rating prooves at least something: Stefab Meyer Kahlen is the
>beggest computer chess programmer of the last century. Shredder will certainly
>remain on top for a few years again.

We cannot know the future.
I wonder how do you know what is going to happen in the next few years.

When I consider the fact that movei is only 200-300 elo weaker than shredder
inspite of all the missing knowledge that it does not have(both in evaluation
and search) I think that chess programs are very weak and I expect to see in
2008 some programs  that are at least 100 elo better than shredder8 and I am not
sure if the best of them is going to be shredderX.



If someone kwants to know how I got the estimate of 200-300 elo difference then
Movei is 215 elo weaker than Shredder based on the following link
http://www.playwitharena.co.uk/modules.php?name=ATL_League&page=4

Shredder is handicapped by using arena book so I guess that the real difference
is near 250 elo.

Uri



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