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Subject: Re: Brilliant win by Kasparov!!: What about 30. ... Rhe8!?

Author: Prakash Das

Date: 00:50:03 01/22/99

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On January 21, 1999 at 08:25:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 21, 1999 at 05:33:50, Prakash Das wrote:
>
>>On January 20, 1999 at 19:43:39, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On January 20, 1999 at 15:31:40, Jeroen Noomen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 20, 1999 at 11:44:29, Soren Riis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Kasparov just won against Topolov what must be one the most beutiful
>>>>>combinations in the history of chess. What is the engines oppinion? Did any of
>>>>>them find Rxd4!!! Is there any defence for black? After Ra7 and Bb7?
>>>>>
>>>>>Soren Riis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi Soren,
>>>>
>>>>I just came back from Wijk aan Zee, witnessing the brilliant game won
>>>>by Kasparov. The following might be of interest to you:
>>>>
>>>>1. According to Kasparov 24. ... cxd4 was a mistake and Black should
>>>>   have played 24. ... Kb6 instead. Maybe there is a computer program
>>>>   that refrains from taking the rook, finding the move 24 ... Kb6?
>>>>   It seems impossible to me one would play this! Furthermore Kasparov
>>>>   told on Dutch Tv Text that after 24 ... cxd4? Black is lost and
>>>>   everything is pretty much forced.
>>>>
>>>>2. After 24. ... cxd4 25. Re7+ Kb8 the game would have been finished
>>>>   in a nice way as well: 26. Qxd4 Nd7 27. Bxd7 Bxd5 28. Qb6+ Ka8
>>>>   29. Qxa6+ Kb8 30. Qb6+ Ka8 31. Bc6+ Bxc6 32. Nxc6 winning the queen
>>>>   and remaining with a 2 pawns advantage.
>>>>
>>>>3. I shortly analysed the game at home with The King 2.54 and it played
>>>>   the very interesting 30. ... Rhe8!? instead of 30. ... Qc4. (Note
>>>>   that 30. ... Rd6? 31. Rb6!! wins brilliantly). The point is that
>>>>   Black prepares ... Qe5 in answer to Kb2. So after 30. ... Rhe8!?
>>>>   31. Rb6 (what else?) Ra8 can be played. The King only finds 32. Be6!?
>>>>   Rxe6 33. Rxe6 (again threatening Kb2 winning) Qc4! 34. Qxc4 bxc4
>>>>   35. Rxf6 Kxa3, but this seems defensible for Black.
>>>>
>>>>So the big question is: Is there a win after 30. ... Rhe8!?
>>>>
>>>>Best regards, Jeroen Noomen
>>>
>>>I watched Kasparov (black) play a game yesterday morning, and in a simple
>>>endgame that was pretty well drawn, white kept finding ways to make mistakes,
>>>lose a pawn here, a pawn there, and pretty soon Kasparov won a probably dead
>>>drawn game.  Due to opponent errors.  Looks like the same thing happened here.
>>>
>>>Would be nice to see him try that against a computer, but we _know_ he won't,
>>>because there was a forced perpetual in one game where he could have played
>>>Bxh7+, but in his words "I wasn't sure I didn't miss something and didn't want
>>>to take a chance."  Take chances against humans, _not_ against computers, as
>>>they shine a bright light on your analysis and expose _any_ small flaws that
>>>were overlooked.  :)
>>
>>
>> Yes Bob, and why are you not so quick to point out the poor performance from
>>the others in this tournament? Shirov today wiggled out a draw against Timman
>>from a losing position, and this is a guy who is claiming to compete for a
>>world championship. And there are lots of such games so far.
>>
>> Kasparov showed today why he is best of them all. Many reasons but the most
>>important being his ability to adapt and prepare and outsmart opponents.
>>
>>  Show some fairness. Try, okay?
>
>Perhaps I should point you to the title of this thread:  "Brilliant win by
>Kasparov!!: What about 30. ... Rhe8!?"
>
>Where exactly do we start talking about Shirov, Topolov, etc?  I simply pointed
>out that many of Kasparov's wins are the result of the human getting 'psyched'
>rather than by his playing a brilliant and irrefutable move.
>
>no fairness issue here at all.  I believe if you look at my comments about
>prior GM games you will _always_ find that I have said that _every_ game I have
>ever gone over carefully has at least one blunder.  So there was no intent to
>be 'unfair'.  However, the 'brilliance' of Rxd4 is yet to be proved...


 I forgot to add this: Kasparov is leading this super strong tournament with a
stunning 4.5/5, and he won the strong blitz tournament on Monday ahead of Anand
with a round to spare. At one point he was leading by as much as 2.5 points.

 So I suppose all his wins are discredited by your self because they were
flawed, and that his opponents who played such perfect chess are lagging
woefully behind? (Yes I am extrapolating from your comments and history of
posts.)

  How far do you want to take your non-sensical point of view?.

Prakash Das



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