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Subject: Re: Material-only search from the starting position

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:25:16 01/10/05

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On January 10, 2005 at 15:18:09, Andrew Williams wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Last Friday (7th January 2005) I started PM on a material-only search from the
>starting position. This was in response to a request from Duncan Roberts:
>
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/2/message.html?151665
>
>On Saturday 8th, I posted a progress report:
>
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/2/message.html?151865
>
>I was hopeful that PM would finish 35 plies over the weekend, but it didn't
>happen. When I got up this morning, there had been no progress since Saturday
>afternoon and I didn't want to leave my PC on all day. PM had had 43 hours since
>it finished ply 34, but although it was still burning CPU time, there was no
>more output. The last I heard from PM was:
>
>30=  +0.00   00:28:36.541087088735   1.a3 a6 2.a4 a5 3.b3 b6 4.c3 c6
>                                     5.b4 axb4 6.cxb4 e6 7.Bb2 Nf6
>                                     8.b5 cxb5 9.axb5 Rxa1 10.Bxa1 g6
>                                     11.Nc3 d6 12.Nf3
>31>  +0.00   01:00:13.772083574223   1.a3 a6 2.a4 a5 3.b3 b6 4.c3 c6 5.b4 axb4
>                                     6.cxb4 e6 7.Bb2 Nf6 8.b5 cxb5 9.axb5 Rxa1
>                                     10.Bxa1 g6 11.Nc3 d6 12.Nf3 Qe7 13.d4
>31<  +0.01   01:09:45.04-1811636011   1.a3
>31=  +0.00   01:09:45.04-1811636011   1.a3 a6 2.a4 a5 3.b3 b6 4.c3 c6 5.b4 axb4
>                                      6.cxb4 e6 7.Bb2 Nf6 8.b5 cxb5 9.axb5 Rxa1
>                                      10.Bxa1 g6 11.Nc3 d6 12.Nf3 Qe7 13.d4
>32>  +0.00   02:09:55.47 303672321   1.a3 a6 2.a4 a5 3.b3 b6 4.c3 c6 5.b4 axb4
>                                     6.cxb4 e6 7.Bb2 Nf6 8.b5 cxb5 9.axb5 Rxa1
>                                     10.Bxa1 g6 11.Nc3 d6 12.Nf3 Qe7 13.d4 Kd8
>32<  +0.01   02:27:21.531056234340   1.a3
>32=  +0.00   02:27:21.531056234340   1.a3 a6 2.a4 a5 3.b3 b6 4.c3 c6 5.b4 axb4
>                                     6.cxb4 e6 7.Bb2 Nf6 8.b5 cxb5 9.axb5 Rxa1
>                                     10.Bxa1 g6 11.Nc3 d6 12.Nf3 Qe7 13.d4 Kd8
>33>  +0.00   05:02:57.082077668534   1.a3 a6 2.a4 a5 3.b3 b6 4.c3 c6 5.b4 axb4
>                                     6.cxb4 e6 7.Bb2 Nf6 8.b5 cxb5 9.axb5 Rxa1
>                                     10.Bxa1 g6 11.Nc3 d6 12.Nf3 e5 13.e3
>33<  +0.01   05:41:54.93-634541739   1.a3
>33=  +0.00   05:41:55.06-634541739   1.a3 a6 2.a4 a5 3.b3 b6 4.c3 c6 5.b4 axb4
>                                     6.cxb4 e6 7.Bb2 Nf6 8.b5 cxb5 9.axb5 Rxa1
>                                     10.Bxa1 g6 11.Nc3 d6 12.Nf3 e5 13.e3
>34>  +0.00   11:36:50.42-1671302356  1.a3 a6 2.a4 a5 3.b3 b6 4.c3 c6 5.b4 axb4
>                                     6.cxb4 e6 7.Bb2 Nf6 8.b5 cxb5 9.axb5 Rxa1
>                                     10.Bxa1 g6 11.Nc3 d6 12.Nf3 e5 13.e3 Ke7
>                                     14.Qe2
>34<  +0.01   13:09:24.491898767447   1.a3
>34=  +0.00   13:09:24.491898767447   1.a3 a6 2.a4 a5 3.b3 b6 4.c3 c6 5.b4 axb4
>                                     6.cxb4 e6 7.Bb2 Nf6 8.b5 cxb5 9.axb5 Rxa1
>                                     10.Bxa1 g6 11.Nc3 d6 12.Nf3 e5 13.e3 Ke7
>                                     14.Qe2
>
>I'm posting this output purely for completeness. The node counts overflowed on
>ply 31 and the PVs are probably pretty nonsensical.
>
>Andrew


It may be interesting to know how many plies does only material search need to
find the following mates

mate in 6
[D]4k3/8/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w - - 0 1

mate in 7

[D]4k3/p7/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w - - 0 1

Uri



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