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Subject: Re: Material-only search from the starting position

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 15:13:52 01/10/05

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On January 10, 2005 at 17:39:33, Duncan Roberts wrote:

>On January 10, 2005 at 17:18:10, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>On January 10, 2005 at 16:45:43, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>
>>>I don't understand the interest in material only search. You've completed 34
>>>ply, but what does that prove? For instance, how do you know if upon completion
>>>of ply 35, your engine might decide that the best line gives up a pawn at move
>>>3? It's possible. You're just spinning your wheels here for no reason. And this
>>>is independent of whether or not you are using null move pruning or whatever.
>>>That issue is a red herring that distracts from the fact that no firm conclusion
>>>can drawn in any case.
>>
>>To be more precise, you can't claim there is no material loss in the first N
>>moves, but you *can* claim no mate in N moves however, but that's all you can
>>claim. As I understand it, it is the former case that is your primary interest.
>
>according to dann you can claim there is probably no material gain for white in
>the first N moves, if it finds nothing.
>
>do you disagree with the claim?

Yes, I disagree with the claim. It is possible that in order to avoid mate in N
+ 1, it may be necessary to dump material at a very early point. A possibility
that cannot be ruled out.

>
>
>duncan



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