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Subject: Re: KNNNNKQ (long)

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 03:36:25 02/01/05

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On January 31, 2005 at 19:49:20, Mark Rawlings wrote:

>On January 31, 2005 at 17:34:52, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On January 30, 2005 at 12:53:11, Helmut Conrady wrote:
>>
>>>On January 30, 2005 at 10:56:55, Mark Rawlings wrote:
>>>
>>>>Very interesting!
>>>>
>>>>Is the KRNKNN mate in 262 still the longest tablebase mate??
>>
>>Possibly not. If you simply have some 100 move sequence that exchanges to other
>>5 or 6 men, you already are having a far longer mate.
>
>There are longer mates, of course, but they haven't been constructed in
>tablebases yet.  Also, the DTM in the existing 6-piece tablebases already take
>into account the number of moves after conversion to the 5-piece tablebases,
>etc.

A 6 piece tablebase with pawns that needs an underpromotion to win has a good
chance to break the record I guess.

Tony

>
>I remember seeing one of these long tablebase mates where someone added a piece
>or two with some forcing moves to create an even longer mate.  This would be
>pretty tough to do for more than a few moves, though!
>
>Mark
>
>
>>
>>I don't think we will have exact statistics on it though. DTM won't hold for
>>long. It eats too much harddisk space for 7 men when compared to win/draw/loss.
>>
>>Vincent
>>
>>>>Mark
>>>
>>>Yes these 523 plies are the longest DTM so far. I expect this record holds in
>>>the 6 piece endings.
>>
>>KNNNNKQ is a 7 man egtb.
>>
>>>Helmut



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