Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 09:55:16 02/04/05
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On February 04, 2005 at 12:16:53, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >On February 04, 2005 at 02:56:26, Mike Byrne wrote: > >>The moderators recently received a post from a young man who made a very >>convincing argument that we should not allowed CCC members to call another CCC >>member "swami". >> >>The argument is that it was degrading and insulting to those members who come >>from India. The question was raised if would we allow other ethnic groups to >>be simliarly harassed. >> >>For example, without going into all the specific examples, would we allow any >>ethnic group to be harras in a similiar fashion? The answer is no. Mitigating >>this somewhat, we did have a member named "swami" who became infamous for trying >>to obtain engines illegally. I believe most of the references were made to >>those who posted like "swami" and not becauae a member was from India. >>Nonetheless, new members do not understand the "swami" history and we should >>stop it. Our members from India find this "swami" name calling degrading. >>Would we allow people to call our members , kraut, nazi, kite, hunky,dago,polak >>etc. The answer is no and we should not longer allow "swami" either. >> >>So I'm asking everyone to simply stop calling any member "swami" - although I >>realize the tempation is there, it is simply not the right way for us to treat >>our fellow CCC Indian members. >> >>Thanks for your understanding and cooperation. >> >>Best, >> >>Michael Byrne > >Since this post is clearly aimed at me, I would like to make something very >clear: I am not using the term as some strage sort of racial slur, but as an >abbreviation of "Swaminathan", as I believe that Swaminathan Natarajan, Vikrant >Malvankar, Madhavan, and Adam Wilks are all aliases of the same idiot. Not only >do they all share the same complete lack of interesting information and poor use >of the English language, but I have seen "conversations" by this moron where he >signs "Vikrant" to his Madhavan account and vice versa. > >Perhaps I will be proven wrong, but I'd be very curious to see IP and traceroute >logs for those accounts. > >anthony Anthony, Two things, I have not ever made a mental note of who was posting what with respect to calling someone 'swami" - so my post was not directed at anyone in particular. I also never perceived it as being racist or sladerous against a group of people or cultures. Like you, I thought it was making reference to a ubiqitious charcater who kept reappearing. But since it has been brought to my attention that it could be perceived a derogatory comment about a specific group -I figure I would nip it in the bud without accusing anyone of anything - a simple request that I think we should stop with the swami remarks and let's move on. That is all. best, Michael
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