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Subject: Re: The importance of opening books -- a simple experiment

Author: Arturo Ochoa

Date: 12:21:00 02/19/05

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On February 19, 2005 at 14:48:49, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On February 19, 2005 at 14:22:06, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>
>>>I thought maybe you could interpret the data and present me with a summary /
>>>conclusion.
>>>Remember you did claim to have proof it was more than 100 Elo :)
>>>
>>
>>I did not claim, I said a percentage 30%. I dont have to provide you sepecific
>>results, I gave you an exanpple and you simply as Uri Blass did not read. It is
>>not my problem, it is yours because of lack of comprehension. You are not
>>somebody important or decisive for computer chess to show my private results.
>
>I would just like to know in terms of rating what those 30% mean.
>The question here has been if it is 100, 200 or 700 Elo, 30% could fit any of
>those figures.

Well, If Diep won 10 games and 30% of that 10 games were wont by book then you
have an idea. Compute if an engine won 10 games and 3 of those 10 games were won
by book then, you have an idea. I wont compute that for you.


>
>>>>That is the reason why you engine will be always beated.
>>>
>>>I suspect the reason is that I have a full time job and only one computer for
>>>testing.
>>
>>I have a full time job out of computer chess.
>
>But if you don't have an engine to develop you are free to put all the effort
>into a book.

It depends on what important is the component book for you. But you know what it
will happens when you face top engines or engines at the similar leverl of your
engine with an integrated tuned book.


>
>The question for me is if developing the engine is time better spent than
>manually writing a book.

That is answer that I have already responded and I wont repeat it again.


>I think it is, but that would depend on how much a book is worth in terms of
>Elo...
>Do you see where I am going with this?
>

Already answered.

>I'm not accusing you of anything.
>I guess I should have written "one might want to sell it" instead of "you
>might.."

Ok. It is clear. I dont like to be pointed out or accused about things that I
have not said.



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