Author: Lance Perkins
Date: 15:42:53 03/10/05
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They are meant to illustrate that efficiency is an attribute of protocol design. The move list feature of UCI is obviously inefficient compared to what is already in xboard and ICS. Whether or not the inefficiency of UCI is acceptable is another matter - a debatable one - especially after it is has become obvious that the statement "UCI is not a network protocol" is not exactly true. Why invent an inefficient protocol to replace an efficient one? Hmmm. --- On March 10, 2005 at 16:02:56, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >On March 10, 2005 at 14:29:21, Lance Perkins wrote: > >>On the contraty, this is not about bandwidth. Think 'protocol' design. >> >>API's is another form of protocol. When you write your Search function requring >>the alpha and beta values, do you pass these 'integers' as 'strings' and then >>convert them to integers inside the function? The values are naturally integer. >>Why represent them as strings. > >Strawman #1. What does this have to do with anything? > >>Since you insist to make this a bandwidth issue, what makes you think that a >>chess engine protocol will not be used over the network? The ThinkerBoard >>package comes with a utility called RemoteThinker/RelayThinker that allows a GUI >>to run from one machine and the engine to run from another machine. Your GUI >>will have no clue that engine is actually remote. > >Strawman #2. What does this have to do with anything? I already proved with >hard numbers that the bandwidth difference is negligible. > >>In protocol design, when you invoke a service, you should be transport-safe. The >>service can be on the same machine or it can be on another machine. > >Strawman #3. What does this have to do with anything? Clearly any protocol >that goes over a pipe can go over a TCP stream. > >>These are very basic computer science concepts. > >And horribly misapplied. If I wanted to read CS 101 again, I would. You have >exactly two sentences worth considering: "Engines are naturally stateful. Why >invent a protocol that treats them differently." Which boils down to "I don't >like UCI". Which is fine, but not exactly the most logical of arguments. > >anthony
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