Author: Robert Allgeuer
Date: 22:34:11 03/31/05
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On March 31, 2005 at 15:56:00, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >On March 31, 2005 at 15:50:52, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On March 31, 2005 at 15:40:43, Dave Kuntzsch wrote: >> >>>These are preliminary results after Toga's first tournament. The Ku suffix >>>Craftys are private compiles with modified source. They are experimental and not >>>available for distribution. >>> >>>Level: Blitz 5/0 >>>Hardware: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz >>> >>> Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws >>> >>> 1 Ruffian 1.0.5 : 2680 9 9 4228 62.4 % 2592 28.5 % >>> 2 Toga II 0.93 : 2657 27 27 504 59.9 % 2587 24.2 % >>> 3 ProDeo 1.1 : 2623 16 16 1519 54.2 % 2593 21.7 % >>> 4 List 5.12 : 2620 8 8 4731 53.0 % 2599 28.5 % >>> 5 Crafty 19.10 Ku : 2612 8 8 4235 51.8 % 2600 36.2 % >>> 6 Fruit 2.0 : 2602 12 12 2519 49.4 % 2606 21.3 % >>> 7 ProDeo 1.0 WB : 2598 9 9 4228 49.3 % 2603 23.1 % >>> 8 Thinker 4.7a : 2594 9 9 3724 48.4 % 2605 34.3 % >>> 9 Crafty 19.10 Base : 2589 12 12 2024 48.5 % 2600 39.7 % >>> 10 Aristarch 4.50 : 2588 9 9 3724 47.7 % 2604 28.5 % >>> 11 Crafty 19.13 Ku : 2587 22 22 511 50.9 % 2581 48.5 % >>> 12 Crafty Classic 2004 : 2583 11 11 2527 47.5 % 2600 36.8 % >>> 13 Crafty 19.10b : 2580 22 22 511 49.8 % 2582 47.2 % >>> 14 Delfi 4.5 : 2571 12 12 2212 45.5 % 2602 29.0 % >>> 15 SmarThink 0.17a : 2554 27 27 504 42.8 % 2605 23.6 % >>> 16 SOS-5 : 2546 18 18 1016 43.1 % 2594 26.5 % >>> 17 Crafty 19.18 Ku : 2532 18 18 1015 40.6 % 2598 34.0 % >>> 18 Zappa 1.0 : 2522 27 28 504 38.1 % 2606 21.8 % >>> 19 AnMon 5.50 : 2516 15 15 1708 37.3 % 2607 19.1 % >>> >>>Dave >> >>It's a lot stronger. Probably less than 1% of the code is modified. It just >>goes to show how a few clever changes can have a big impact on strenght. In >>this case, it looks like about 50 Elo. >> >>I would say that your subject line is highly misleading. > > I am much surprised that Toga (a clone or modified > Fruit) seems to be accepted by most people. This > was not the case with other programs in the past :-( > Kurt The difference is that Fruit was released under the GPL which explicitly allows derived work. So the real issue is "only" the moral question whether the name change was a sensible thing to do, not the fact that Toga is derived work. I do not see any reason why these changes could not be folded back into original Fruit sources if Fabien wants that. Robert
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