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Subject: Re: A Blast from the past - Feng Hsu

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 12:05:00 04/20/05

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On April 20, 2005 at 12:39:16, Matthew Hull wrote:

>On April 20, 2005 at 12:15:58, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On April 20, 2005 at 08:44:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On April 20, 2005 at 07:59:35, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 19, 2005 at 22:13:28, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 19, 2005 at 22:02:32, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>ahem ...(cough) -- I see you quoted Hsu's book and your putting things to rest.
>>>>>
>>>>>Was there any other point you were trying to make?
>>>>
>>>>It should be obvious that the few quotes given, refute the claims of Hyatt,
>>>>exposes his obvious bias, and his libelous, ignorant, innaccurate, speculations
>>>>and attempts to demean the greatest Chess Player in History!
>>>>IMO, his lack of objectivity, & logic leaves much to be desired.
>>>>He has taken things to a personal level with Posters that do not agree with some
>>>>of his absurd comments.
>>>>In regard to some of the technical apsects of Programming, he has misled
>>>>with willful intent to deceive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>care to explain the above characterization?  The rules didn't require them to
>>>give him printouts.  They required them to give him all "publicly played games"
>>>of which there were exactly _zero_ to give him.
>>
>>As I so Posted!
>>"Pg 207
>> The match contract explicitly obliged the Deep Blue team to provide, when
>>requested, the scores of all our public tournament games.
>>
>>"True, he did not have access to games played by the newest version of the
>>program."
>>
>>           What don't you understand here?
>
>
>None of those games were "public tournament games".
>
>What don't YOU understand?
>
>
>
>>
>>He asked that the Logs be given in a sealed Folder to the Arbiter for later
>>examination.
>>
>>"Granting him direct access to Deep Blue's game logs would be equivilent to
>>giving him Deep Blue's silicon head on a  silver platter, with $700,000 on the
>>side."
>>
>>>
>>>Please learn to read, with a dictionary handy, so that you can understand what
>>>is being said...
>>
>>
>>>
>>>then your childish comments won't make you look like an idiot...
>>
>>My Quote:
>>"He has taken things to a personal level with Posters that do not agree with
>>some of his absurd comments."
>>
>>Thanks for proving my point!
>>
>>"In regard to some of the technical aspects of Programming, he has misled
>>with willful intent to deceive."
>>
>>and you have..
>
>
>Nobody here agrees with you on this.

Speak for yourself only!

  Bob has told it straight on every point.

No, he hasn't! Ask Thorsten, and read his Post!

>
>You are just in denial that Garry got his helmet handed to him by a machine.
>Both he and you are sore losers.

No, I am for "Fair Play". Honesty & Integrity on this Forum.

Misleading, to the point of lying is unethical.

Or, perhaps I should not attribute to malice, what can be explained by
ignorance.


>
>:)
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>...just wondering...
>>>>
>>>>Wonder no more..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Best,
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Let's put some stuff to rest here..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Quoting from FENG-HSIUNG HSU's Book
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Behind Deep Blue"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pg 207
>>>>>> The match contract explicitly obliged the Deep Blue team to provide, when
>>>>>>requested, the scores of all our public tournament games.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>True, he did not have access to games played by the newest version of the
>>>>>>program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We wanted to be fair, but to give Garry games from our pre-match training would
>>>>>>have placed us at a serious disadvantage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pg 219.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The chess books I had only gave cursory treatments on the positional play of the
>>>>>>Queen
>>>>>>After this game Joe wrote some simple code on where the Queen should be placed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pg 220.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>An automatic tuning run for the evaluation function pointed out to us that the
>>>>>>weighting for one class of King Safety should be increased.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pg224.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The morning before game 2, the team debated whether we should make changes
>>>>>>to Deep Blue's evaluation function. Joe had already 'fixed' the bug responsible
>>>>>>for the last move in game 1, but there were other changes we needed to look
>>>>>>into.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pg 238.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The penalty for Bishops being shut out from the game was increased after this
>>>>>>game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pg 243.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Granting him direct access to Deep Blue's game logs would be equivilent to
>>>>>>giving him Deep Blue's silicon head on a  silver platter, with $700,000 on the
>>>>>>side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Well, enough Quotes..
>>>>>>Read the BOOK!



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