Author: KarinsDad
Date: 09:27:38 02/04/99
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On February 04, 1999 at 10:59:37, robert flint wrote: >people have to understand that yes the grandmaster has better position judgement >than the computer but the computer will point out almost all tactical blunder >almost instantly !!! take a strong program such as fritz5 or hiarcs7 play over >and grandmaster game and you will see what i mean!!! and the day has come where >i do thing grandmaster are stronger than the computers. they find error in the >opening book to exploit!! hiarcs7 on my 450mhz could take anyone down even >kasparov !~! i have a fide rating of 2203 and many of my friends are much much >stronger . they all agree with me !! Well, Michael Ginat is rated over 2300 and he appears to disagree with you (see his posting in a related branch at 23:42:34 2/03/99). Personally, I think that GMs will occasionally miss a tactic and the computer may help them there, however, when you compare the time needed to consult with the computer and the amount of distraction that causes, I would be hard pressed to think that the GM actually plays stronger chess, just a different type of chess. Also, I am slightly confused. Fritz4 would give it's best 3 lines for a position (I do not know about Fritz5 as I do not have it). However, what if a GM thinks that move x is best, and it is not on the list. Does the GM just make the move on the computer and see the response PVs to find out why the computer thinks that it is bad (and then takes the move back)? Or is there a better way in Fritz5 to analyze a given move? Finally, advanced chess is kind of bogus IMO. It is fine as a once in a while type of variant chess (similar to some of the team GM games in the past), however, I hope it does not hit big. My reason for this is that one of the USCF rules is that you cannot write anything down other than the move and the time (this rule is broken in tournaments today when people write down the move ahead of time, if they change their mind and their move, then they had written down a different move and hence had literally broken the rule, I wish the USCF would either put a caveat for this into their rules to allow it, or would have the tournament directors enforce the current rule, but that is a different topic). I am at the level of play that I occasionally think about line x, find a flaw in it, think about several other lines, forget that I have thought about line x and discarded it, and then revisit line x and suddenly think it is a good move, and then make it and blunder. To me, if I could write down on a piece of paper all of the moves that I had discarded, I would very rarely revisit them. Using a computer to avoid tactic blunders (and some of them rather complex) is like writing down moves to discard. It's kind of like cheating with a computer on ICC or fics, except that everyone knows that you are doing it. It takes some of the human fraility element out of the game. Bogus. KarinsDad
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