Author: chandler yergin
Date: 08:26:32 04/24/05
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On April 24, 2005 at 10:13:18, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 24, 2005 at 05:14:48, Peter Berger wrote: > >>On April 23, 2005 at 23:52:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>Several of us have looked at the logs for the games, and game 2 looked perfectly >>>normal and the program even reported a fail low and "panic time" where it >>>searched longer than normal because of the fail low. >>> >>>This is a red herring and crap. >> >>When was the first time someone independent had a look at these logfiles? Have >>you and the several others had a chance to look at the logfiles right after the >>games took place, say May 1997? >> >>The logfiles IBM published eventually mean nothing at all. This was more than a >>year after the games, wasn't it? Even I could produce most impressive logfiles >>given that much time .. > > >Yes. Several looked at the log right after the event. I believe that Ken sent >me the section from the game although I don't remember whether it was the Qxb6 >(not played) or the Be4 position. I believe that Amir posted something about >the position early, but his comments were based on either not understanding what >DB's log output meant, or something else. > >This was about the "fail low (panic time)" that caused DB to search much longer >than normal and may have been on the Be4 move although I simply don't remember >much about it since it was not a particularly significant event in my mind >because at the time I posted an excerpt from a Crafty log that looked >_identical_ in concept. > >Nothing ever looked strange about the log stuff to me... Kasparov never saw them did he? He was the one that requested them. He was the one under pressure. Review by third parties 'after the fact', way after the fact, do not excuse what happened. I doubt if any Grandmaster, then or now, would go into a Match against 'any' Opponent blind, or accept the Match conditions Kasparov did. Grandmasters prepare a dossier against their opponents and study them for months before a match. The Deep Blue team would not let Garry have access to even a glimpse of the Prematch training games of Deep Blue. With good reason of course; they knew that the Computer could not beat him fair and square.
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