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Subject: Re: A 2005 Appeal to Bob Hyatt, the Scientist! Tell us the Truth About DBII!

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 12:47:36 04/26/05

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On April 26, 2005 at 14:57:37, Vasik Rajlich wrote:

>Forget the "experts" - take a look with your own eyes:
>
>[D] 3rr1k1/1p6/1qp4p/4nPP1/pP2p3/P3N1P1/1BP1b1B1/R1Q4K w - -
>
>Shredder 9 says:
>
> 13/15	 0:01 	-0.45 	2.gxh6 Nf7 3.c4 Qc7 4.Qe1 Bf3 5.Bxf3 exf3 6.Qc3 Qe5
>(471.474) 355
> 14/39	 0:22 	-0.65 	2.gxh6 Qc7 3.Nf1 Nf3 (8.245.411) 361
>
>Does this look to you like a position where black just gone done playing 8 or so
>"?" moves while white was in the meantime playing 4 or 5 "!" moves?
>
>I didn't think so.
>
>Yet, for some reason this is the widely circulated script about game 1 from
>Kasparov-Deep Blue, '97.
>
>Vas
>

To me the position and its continuation by the computer is typical for human
superority in chess. The machine believed in its material advantage and is
unable to see its disadvantage through W two passed pawns, because OF COURSE
Kasparov didn't play gxh6, a move SHREDDER still expects as it seems. This is a
position where DBII had no clue.  Not about the evaluation of the position, not
about the importance of pieces (like the Q for Black's game) and not for the
danger against B's K through the two passed pawns of W. - Not that I would
pretend for a second that I could find moves like Kg1 some moves later. Or that
I would know about the ressources of W against this dangerously looking B+R
attack of Black. But Kasparov saw all this and DBII saw nothing. That is why my
theory is standing that this game 1 in 1997 shows Kasparov's superority without
any thinkable doubt. - Game 2 spoiled it all for Kasparov. Not because of the
machine's chess... As I said to Bob, the scientists should have taken care of
Kasparov's doubts and questions. Because this was a mutual attempt to research
the machine's chess. It wasn't a fight for any championship at all!

I go even further. Kasparov tried his best to analyse the machine's capacities
and when he came to serious doubts in game 2 after the experiences in game 1,
the team of his partners suddenly treated him like an unwanted guest who
allegedly spoiled a party. This is still a scandal in the history of
computerchess.



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