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Subject: Re: Crafty 16.4T

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 15:37:30 02/05/99

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On February 05, 1999 at 17:39:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 04, 1999 at 23:05:04, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On February 04, 1999 at 22:05:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On February 04, 1999 at 19:55:03, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
<<<<<< snip
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm not sure what you are testing, but _no_ 16.x version is 100 points better
>>>or worse than another.  That is a _serious_ difference, which is lacking in
>>>these.
>>>
>>>By my testing, 16.4 is quite a bit better than prior versions, based on a _lot_
>>>of engine vs engine games on the chess servers...
>>
The games were played at G/10 or G/5.  I do this with early versions just to get
a quick read on how it is doing.  If you rember, when I asked you earlier about
where you thought Crafty was at it's best you effectively said to try anything I
wanted.  I've tested Nimzo vs Fritz and Junior and they seem to play about as
close at G/10 as they do at 40/90 with maybe Fritz being better at G/5 or G/10
than the others.  Anyway I moved the time up to G/25 and so far Crafty is
leading Nimzo by +9 -6 =7.  That's quite a turn around from 25-7 favor Nimzo.
I've got the Tablebases working now.  I have to look over the games and see if
the tablebases have made much difference.  Do you have any stats on how much
better Crafty plays with tablebases?(ELO difference)
Jim Walker


>
>
>> Of course Crafty
>>is playing without it's opening book.  I usually give it the Fritz 5.32 book.
>>It is also playing without tabelbases.  That's why I'm trying to get the 16.4T
>>version to use it's tablebases.  It has no book learning or hash learning
>>either.  What do you think all these features add up to in elo points?  Without
>>them it's getting crushed.  I'm playing Crafty on the PII because it doesn't
>>seem to like the AMD K6-2.  The hardware is fairly close, maybe a 10% advantage
>>for the K6-2.
>>Regards,

>>Jim Walker

>snip<

>I really can't guess what it playing without 'pieces' of itself is doing, but
>it ought to play decently, so long as it doesn't get forced into bad book lines
>by using someone else's book...  Getting a 'good start' is half of the battle
>in these games...

Jim



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