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Subject: Re: What is the speed difference that programs earn from 64 bit systems

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 09:20:42 05/02/05

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On May 02, 2005 at 12:03:56, Daniel Pineo wrote:

>On May 01, 2005 at 23:27:40, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>
>>On May 01, 2005 at 21:01:17, Daniel Pineo wrote:
>>
>>>On April 30, 2005 at 20:22:22, Christos Gitsis wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 29, 2005 at 16:26:28, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I read that Shredder9 for 64 bit is released and my question is what is the
>>>>>speed difference that program earn from compiling for 64 bits when you need also
>>>>>64 bit window to run it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can somebody tell me about the speed gain in nodes per second of all the free
>>>>>source code programs including programs that do not use bitboard like tscp or
>>>>>fruit and bitboard programs like Crafty.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>I have tested two different versions of Crafty-19.19 using my Athlon 64 3400+:
>>>>
>>>>- Under 32-bit Windows XP the fastest version I could find in the Internet
>>>>(among about 8 different executables) runs at an average of about 1.5 million
>>>>NPS and has reached a maximum of 1.7 MNPS.
>>>>
>>>>- Under 64-bit Gentoo Linux it runs at an average of 2.2 million NPS and has
>>>>reached a maximum of 2.48 MNPS.
>>>>
>>>>The increase in speed is 40~50%.
>>>>
>>>>I hope this helps
>>>
>>>
>>>Don't you think switching from windows to linux might have something to do with
>>>that 40~50% increase?
>>
>>Last time I asked AMD people to check, 64-bit Visual C generated better code
>>than 64-bit GCC 4.0.
>
>I would expect so, microsoft makes quality stuff nowadays.
>
>
>>
>>So on 64-bit Windows increase would be even larger.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Eugene
>
>I was just pointing out that giving the nps increase from 32bit windows to 64bit
>linux doesn't really pinpoint the benefit of goint to 64bit since some of the
>increase may be due to the OS change.


I think the OS has very little to do with it.  The compiler has a lot to do with
it and the program itself in terms of it's ability to profit from 64-bit
architecture.  AFAIK, bitboard programs tend to benefit more than others.  The
OS counts for next to nothing by comparison.

Matt


>
>- Dan Pineo



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