Author: Walter Faxon
Date: 23:28:38 05/05/05
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On May 05, 2005 at 11:59:18, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On May 05, 2005 at 05:48:27, Walter Faxon wrote: > >>And regarding these (only slightly-out-of-context) quotes of yours: >> >>"...he couldn't defend the wrong-doings of the Hsu-team...this is what German >>war criminals also declared...It is a behaviour of criminals in general...I >>haven't the time for a complete survey of the whole crimes..." >> >>Perhaps you could find some less hyperbolic language for this subject in the >>future. This comparison of Hsu et al to Nazi war criminals is bordering on the >>obscene. >> >>Continuing in this vein -- simply trying to get a rise out of other posters -- >>is the mark of a troll. >> >>-- Walter > >I dont want to continue the debate with you, because of this out-of-context >indeed. I didn't compare neither Hsu NOR Bob with German War Criminals. I was >talking about the excuse with meantioning "having had the order to do this or >that", which was brought as an argument by Bob and others in favor of Hsu and >his team. It's the attempt to excuse something that can't be excused this way. A >scientist can't excuse any violating against science on the base of "being >ordered to do so...". I guess that it's clear that you are a troll while I'm >just referring to science. You brought the obnscene comparison. Bye bye. Hello, all. First, I suppose that I'm glad from his messages in this sub-thread and the other (http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?424412) that Mr. Tueschen will no longer respond to my posts; it gives me the rare opportunity to have the last word! (Although only a couple of people are likely to follow this thread down so far.) In general, it seems that although Mr. Tueschen has complaints about the behavior of the Deep Blue team and/or IBM, he refuses to suggest any concrete changes to future match rules that might address the problem (he snipped my request that he do so). He seems to prefer complaining. I myself am not happy with the way that Deep Blue won; I would have preferred a crush, just as Kasparov would be expected to routinely outplay a 2500 player. The fact that DB won the way all computers have been winning for years, with an occasional good plan but mostly by hanging on and exploiting human frailty, is just the way things are. Discovering that more horsepower was enough to defeat the World Champion -- an undoubted chess genius -- this is the primary scientific result of the 2nd match. I have no illusions that Deep Blue was actually the better player. It was just better over one very short series of games. ----- Secondly, if the numerous mentions of "crimes" in Mr. Tueschen's post to not refer to Dr. Hsu et al, or to Dr. Hyatt (who supports Hsu), it baffles me as to whom Mr. Tueschen is referring. Here is a link to his original post, in which one can find all the phrases I quoted: http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?424284 ----- Finally, regarding who's a troll: If I'm a troll, I'm not a very successful one, judging by the average number of responses to my posts. At least I don't have a personal web page devoted to my trolls as Mr. Tueschen has for his: http://hometown.aol.de/rolftueschen/rolftueschenmosaik.html -- Walter
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