Author: Vasik Rajlich
Date: 10:07:09 05/25/05
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On May 25, 2005 at 09:41:28, Uri Blass wrote: >On May 25, 2005 at 09:10:36, Vasik Rajlich wrote: > >>On May 25, 2005 at 06:13:54, Tord Romstad wrote: >> >>>On May 25, 2005 at 01:21:18, Dann Corbit wrote: >>> >>>>On May 25, 2005 at 00:54:06, Joshua Shriver wrote: >>>> >>>>>Just curious has any engine developers here tried or have an interest in Go >>>>>engine programming? >>>> >>>>My main difficulty is that I would hate to labor ten years to produce something >>>>that does not play as well as a good five year old Go player. >>> >>>I have the same problem. I am very interested in Go programming, but >>>currently the tremendous difficulties scare me. >>> >>>On the other hand, computer chess is rapidly becoming too easy as the CPU >>>speeds increase. Straightforward, unoptimised implementations of a handful >>>of simple and well-known algorithms is sufficient to beat all but a tiny >>>fraction of the world's chess players. No creativity and nothing more than >>>the most basic programming skills is really needed. I find this rather >>>depressing, and my interest in chess programming is slowly waning. >>> >>>Shogi looks like it has the perfect balance. It is sufficiently difficult >>>to be a very interesting programming challenge, but does not look impossibly >>>difficult (like go). At the moment there is an equivalent to the UCI or >>>xboard protocol for Shogi and a few nice GUIs for the major operating >>>systems, I will probably instantly abandon chess programming and start >>>writing a shogi program instead. >>> >>>>I have nosed around in it. My other problem is that I don't play Go myself, so >>>>it does not have the same fascination in that direction. >>> >>>If you have a go club in your neighborhood, I would very much recommend >>>trying it. The game is much more fun to play than chess, IMHO. >>> >> >>I think that which game you prefer is a sort of basic personality test, for >>whether you like >> >>1) short-term or long-term thinking >>2) clear-cut or open-ended problems >>3) clear or vague feedback >>4) to move from one micro-problem to another or to stick to one persistent theme >> >>etc .. >> >>Apparently it's been shown that chess players use only one half of their brains >>during play (the half responsible for logical thinking), while go players use >>both halves. >> >>Vas > >I think that both Chess and Go are based on logical thinking. > >If half of the brain is not responsible for logical thinking then I do not >understand how it can be used for go or for every thinking game. > >Uri The study is a URL from hell: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6SYV-46YJ540-4&_coverDate=03%2F31%2F2003&_alid=82770164&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_qd=1&_cdi=4844&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=8b624f42de7fab3d239e9b6704715b26 If this doesn't work, go to: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Psychology and click on "A functional MRI study of high-level cognition -II. The game of GO." Ok - take with some salt :) Vas
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