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Subject: Re: Fruit vs Toga : the revenge ! (58.5-41.5)

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:38:20 06/15/05

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On June 15, 2005 at 18:13:09, Roger D Davis wrote:

>On June 15, 2005 at 17:34:40, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On June 15, 2005 at 17:15:13, Marc Lacrosse wrote:
>>
>>>On June 15, 2005 at 16:38:37, Gabor Szots wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 15, 2005 at 09:43:27, Marc Lacrosse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I am delighted to present you this highly moral -and funny- story :
>>>>>
>>>>>Program                 Score     %    Av.Op.  Elo    +   -    Draws
>>>>>1 Fruit Massy 2005  :  58.5/100  58.5   2620   2680   60  60   25.0 %
>>>>>2 TogaII 0.93       :  41.5/100  41.5   2680   2620   60  60   25.0 %
>>>>>
>>>>>Congratulations to Fabien Letouzey!
>>>>>
>>>>>Long live original opensource free quality software ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I don't see any moral aspect here. Toga is recognized as legal.
>>>
>>>So anything legal is moral ?
>>
>>The original author has no objections and has plainly stated that fact.
>>
>>If a program is licenced GPL, then that is (in fact) the actual intention.
>>
>>>When you build the major part of your program on the efforts of someone who gave
>>>it opensource to the community, I feel that you should at least keep the same
>>>opensource policy, and give the largest credit to the original effort.
>>>
>>>That is my feeling and I do not see why I could not express it publicly.
>>>
>>>So for me it is quite pleasant that the original author could take the time to
>>>further improve its own work.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>What would you say if it turned out that Toga was stronger?
>>>
>>>Not a shame, not a pity, just bad luck.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>You could equally say that who wins a sword duel has right.
>>>
>>>That's exactly the opposite.
>>>I just began feeling sorry to see everybody praise Toga's strength ("may be the
>>>best amateur program") with less and less people crediting Fruit for a large
>>>part of Toga's success.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The time control you use is questionable anyway.
>>>
>>>Evidently so, but as any time control in fact...
>>>I myself presented them as completely preliminary results, and I am not yet
>>>completely sure myself  that Fruit is better than Toga in short blitzes.
>>>And I have yet no idea of their respective strength at longer time controls: I
>>>got a copy three days ago !
>>>
>>>But if Fruit Massy preliminary results were confirmed, you won't be able to
>>>prevent me from being delighted with it.
>>>
>>>Marc
>
>Is it within the GPL to change the name?

Sure.

In fact, I can create a chess project called foobar.
I can add one small function from Fruit.
Now foobar is also GPL and I must publish all of the code, including all that I
wrote myself.
The new name does not have to change.



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