Author: Christos Gitsis
Date: 14:19:01 06/24/05
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On June 24, 2005 at 14:14:34, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On June 24, 2005 at 11:10:54, Christos Gitsis wrote: > >>On June 24, 2005 at 03:27:31, Drexel,Michael wrote: >> >>>On June 23, 2005 at 21:23:42, Christos Gitsis wrote: >>> >>>>On June 23, 2005 at 14:46:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 23, 2005 at 12:44:31, Peter Kappler wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Utterly marvelous choice of opening by black again. Think he is going to figure >>>>>this out anytime soon? :) >>>>> >>>> >>>>I think Adams played the opening well. >>> >>>> >>>>I believe after 15...Nc4 instead of 15...Be6 Black has already equalized, and >>>>the position is safe enough to play against a computer. >>> >>>15...Nc4 is the theoretical mainline and I don´t think one can say black has >>>already equalized there. He is far away from that point. >>> >>>I wonder how you came to the conclusion the position is safe enough to play >>>against a computer. >> >>After 15...Be6 I found 18 games in my database, with a score of 62% for White. >> >>I found 45 games in my database after 15...Nc4. The score is 50% for White. >>This is an indication to me that the position is equal. > >Database statistics mean nothing. They can only show how popular a line is. >Certainly they can not tell you a certain position is equal. >The position after 15...Nc4 is slightly better for white in my opinion. >This is just a subjective evaluation. >White has a better pawn structure. Black has to be _very_ careful because of the >potentially weak squares d5,f5 in his camp. White doesn´t have any weaknesses. > >Another indication is >>that the position seems equal to my computer programs. A third indication is >>that I, as a chess player, evaluate the position to be equal. >>What advantage do you think White has in this position? >>Are you suggesting that Hydra could win this position without mistakes by Black? > >No, I don´t think black is already lost in the position after 15...Nc4 at all. >But you certainly can´t say a position is not lost -> therefore it is equal. >Your statement black has equalized in such an unbalanced position is like saying >Black has equalized in the Najdorf poisoned pawn after Qxb2. > >I am convinced Adams had a reason to avoid the mainline and 15...Be6 doesn´t >look worse. > >>I just said that the Black's mistakes were made later in the game, and that he >>should be satisfied with the position he obtained after 15 moves. >> >>>Have you ever played this position against Hydra? >> >>Obviously not, but this is irrelevant, since I could lose against Hydra even in >>positions where I would have the advantage. >> >>>I do not think a position with this pawn structure can be safe. >> >>It is as safe as it can be, when you are playing black. > >Believe me, I know a lot of safer options with black against e4. >Especially some lines in the Caro-Kann Mainline are _very_ safe options for >black against the hardware "monsters" provided you have done your homework. > Even in the Caro-Kan, white has aggresive options, which Hydra might choose. For example Anti Caro-Kan (2.c4) , opening up the position, or advance variation (3.e5) with either Nc3 and g4 (the usual choice) or 4.c4 (as Morozevich plays). It would not be safe for Adams to play these positions I think. >Michael > >> >>> >>>Michael >>> >>> >>> The mistakes were made >>>>later on, and it is not guaranteed that he wouldn't make them if he had chosen >>>>another opening move. >>>> >>>>After all 1...e5 is his "pet" opening.
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