Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 11:45:45 06/26/05
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On June 26, 2005 at 12:46:04, Peter Kappler wrote: >On June 26, 2005 at 12:12:56, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On June 26, 2005 at 11:54:21, Peter Kappler wrote: >> >>>On June 26, 2005 at 11:41:24, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>> >>>>On June 26, 2005 at 10:56:19, Peter Kappler wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 26, 2005 at 01:48:28, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On June 26, 2005 at 00:06:47, Peter Kappler wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On June 25, 2005 at 20:42:42, Steve Glanzfeld wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>[Event "4th Intl.CSVN"] >>>>>>>>[Site "Leiden NED"] >>>>>>>>[Date "2004.04.24"] >>>>>>>>[Round "5"] >>>>>>>>[White "Shredder"] >>>>>>>>[Black "Hydra"] >>>>>>>>[Result "1-0"] >>>>>>>>[ECO "B76"] >>>>>>>>[PlyCount "61"] >>>>>>>>[EventDate "2004.??.??"] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. Nc3 Bg7 6. Be3 d6 7. f3 Nf6 8. Qd2 >>>>>>>>O-O 9. O-O-O Nxd4 10. Bxd4 Be6 11. Kb1 Qc7 12. h4 Rfc8 13. h5 Qa5 14. h6 Bh8 >>>>>>>>15. a3 Nd7 16. f4 Bxd4 17. Qxd4 Nf6 18. f5 gxf5 19. Nd5 Bxd5 20. exd5 Qc5 21. >>>>>>>>Qd3 Kh8 22. Qxf5 Rg8 23. Rh3 Qc8 24. Qf2 Qf8 25. Bd3 Rg5 26. Bf5 Qg8 27. g4 Qd8 >>>>>>>>28. Qe3 Rxg4 29. Bxg4 Nxg4 30. Qg5 Qg8 31. Qxe7 1-0 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=87303 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hydra recently won an 8-game match, 5.5-2.5 against Shredder. (A slower version >>>>>>>of Hydra than the one Adams is facing.) >>>>>> >>>>>>I have already posted several times that the experimental Shredder version that >>>>>>played against Hydra was heavely buggy (about 150 points weaker on long time >>>>>>controls), so it would have lost the match against any strong engine too. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I must have missed these posts. Can you provide a few positions from the match >>>>>where the current Shredder 9 plays a different move from the experimental >>>>>version that lost to Hydra? >>>> >>>>One is more than enough: >>>> >>>>look game 6th when Shredder gave a piece for 2 pawns and lost the game. No >>>>Shredder commercial version would play that move at any level. >>>> >>>>Sandro >>>> >>> >>>You must be thinking of another game. Game 6 was a drawn rook and pawn ending. >> >>Sorry it was the last game we lost. Game 8th I think. >> > >I assume you are talking about the long, forced variation after 33...g4, but it >seems pretty clear that Shredder was already losing at that point. The point here is that Shredder was heavely buggy and that was making the program a lot weaker, not if we lost only due to this. > >[D] 5rk1/4qpp1/1Q6/p1p1p1pn/P1B1P3/2P2P1P/6PK/3R4 b - - 0 33 > >-Peter
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